Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"

[Zinzan]

Tonk a Pom was 06/07..

Oh gawd, only the Aussies Don't recall that one, but I wouldn't put it past them.

 

[Borges]

I don't know of anything in cricket that obeys the law of diminishing marginal returns more than the concept of home advantage. One would have thought that trying to overdo home advantage was a childhood disease if so many grown ups didn't suffer from it.


It applies to every home team; Australia would have had no chance in India if that idiot Ravi Shastri hadn't asked for, and got, designer pitches for the first two tests. India would have had no chance in South Africa if that idiot Faf hadn't insisted on what he thought were pitches that were tailor made to suit his team.

 

[Burgey]

Tonk a Pom was 06/07.....it was a wanky thing was mildly annoying, but FMD Kennedy how the **** was it "racist"?? Man if you're that thin skinned and gonna get hot under the collar playing the race card over something like that I really suggest you never leave Durham mate.

I’d suggest that anyway tbh. Could hang out with Beevs in the basement.

 

[Zinzan]

I’d suggest that anyway tbh. Could hang out with Beevs in the basement.

Candle-lit scrabble. How very romantic.

 

[Gnske]

CA deserves a lot of the blame. Didn't they orchestrate a campaign during the last Ashes called, ''tonk a Pom'' or some racist bollocks?

It was #BeatEngland

And racism is only exercised by people in power over minority groups. Should check your definitions friend

 

[Tangles]

Some of the issues with the pitches are the drop ins which are usually turgid and make for awful watching.

 

[GotSpin]

Which are pretty much the tracks you've been dishing out the last 5 years. Flat decks that the opposition have no chance bowling Australia out on for anything less than 400, but which Australia just have enough in their ammunition to get 20 wickets. You just need to mitigate some of those stupidly flat ones like the MCG of late & that Perth wicket against NZ in 2015.

Nah not really. They've been awful lately

 

[quincywagstaff]

Imagine Australia's batting lineup next summer having to deal on a Hobart 16/17 style pitch, they'd be lucky to get 100 in the two innings combined.

 

[stephen]

It was #BeatEngland

And racism is only exercised by people in power over minority groups. Should check your definitions friend

No, racism is stereotyping based on someone's race. Calling all Poms unwashed is racist. Defining racism your way gives any aggrieved group of people the ability to say that they're not being racist when they are.

When racism is combined with a power imbalance then despicable acts occur.

Bloody education system these days...

 

[Gnske]

No, racism is stereotyping based on someone's race. Calling all Poms unwashed is racist. Defining racism your way gives any aggrieved group of people the ability to say that they're not being racist when they are.

When racism is combined with a power imbalance then despicable acts occur.

Bloody education system these days...

This is such a whitewashed perspective on racism, fmd

 

[S.Kennedy]

Maybe xenophobia is more the correct word than racism, but I should point out that they're tourists who are coming to enjoy your country and deserve the hospitality of all strangers.

If England had put in place an official campaign in 2015 called ''beat the Australians'' we'd have been crucified for xenophobia and unsportsmanlike behaviour, bringing cricket into disrepute and derailing our sporting values, not so much from other nations but by ourselves. There would've been a back clash from former players, sports columnists, members of the public, etc.

In fact I haven't known another country in any sport who has had a vitriolic official campaign emblazoned with, ''beat whichever team they are playing'', replete with t-shirts and slogans. It is entirely alien to me as a concept - I'd have to go back to the toddlers' playgroup to find a similar level of brainpower and mindset.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Aaane do

 

[mr_mister]

Give it a rest dude rofl

 

[Gnske]

If England had put in place an official campaign in 2015 called ''beat the Australians'' we'd have been crucified for xenophobia and unsportsmanlike behaviour, bringing cricket into disrepute and derailing our sporting values, not so much from other nations but by ourselves.

Nah, we'd meme it.

The English lack the humour and good faith to deal with the old bit of a banter and good willed tough talk.

 

[StephenZA]

I do find it amusing that it is alright to insult an entire population group, because that is not personal... but it is not alright to wear SBW masks because that hurts an individual's feelings. It's not exactly equivalent but neither is really acceptable. But we can excuse the one because it is 'fun' and the other because it is done with malice.... there goes that damn line again.

 

[Gnske]

I do find it amusing that it is alright to insult an entire population group, because that is not personal... but it is not alright to wear SBW masks because that hurts an individual's feelings. It's not exactly equivalent but neither is really acceptable. But we can excuse the one because it is 'fun' and the other because it is done with malice.... there goes that damn line again.

Hey man, the SBW stuff was clearly out of line. But is it crossing a line if I say something that's so true and yet so vague and open to interpretation?

 

[stephen]

This is such a whitewashed perspective on racism, fmd

It's equally as wrong for a black person to say that all white people are monsters as it is for a white person to say all black people are monsters. The consequences might be different, depending on who is in power where it is said, but it doesn't make either statement any less racist.

 

[StephenZA]

Hey man, the SBW stuff was clearly out of line. But is it crossing a line if I say something that's so true and yet so vague and open to interpretation?

Because it would not be used at all if the double meaning was not implied... thats what makes it 'fun'. No double meaning - no fun.

 

[Gnske]

Whoa enough of the double banging Stephen and Stephen, there was double meaning though. They weren't just implying Candice was some tavern wench, there was more to it than that, even I can see that even though I think it was poor to do.

 

[Borges]

As far as I am concerned, all those guys who wore those masks, and all those others who chanted personal (non-cricketing) insults were all ******* sooks.
And I don't think that this was a negligible portion of the crowd that turned up for the last test match.