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Australia's next ODI spinner

sideshowtim

Banned
Hoggy doesn't have a long time to go, yet he's been a vital part of our ODI set up...A quiet achiever of sorts. Who will replace him when he calls it a day though?

Will we go for Cam White, who is more of a batsman than a bowler nowadays...or will we look at Cullen? Personally, I think Hauritz is the man for the ODI job. Very impressive one day spinner.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
Hauritz is rubbish. One of the worst bowlers ever to play ODIs for Australia.
He has looked impressive in One Day cricket for NSW this year. That said, Cullen has bowled pretty well too. He's taking 2 wickets for every 10 he bowls at an average of 27.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lee+Bracken+Johnson+Tait+Symonds/Watson/Clarke.

Who needs a specialist spinner?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
He has looked impressive in One Day cricket for NSW this year.
I seem to remember he looked impressive in 2001\02 too. Well done to him on doing it again 6 years later.

What's the betting he bowls well again in 2013\14? Reckon he might get a final shot at playing state cricket again if he did? Or will he be in third-grade by then?
 

deeps

International 12th Man
Agree, Hauritz is rubbish. But i also think Hogg has at least 2 years left in him.. He is a fitness fanatic.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
Lee+Bracken+Johnson+Tait+Symonds/Watson/Clarke.

Who needs a specialist spinner?
I think this is the route we'll end up going down. The wicket taking capability of such an attack is quite mouth-watering really...Although there are plenty of times when spinners come in handy in OD cricket...
 

SirBloody Idiot

Cricketer Of The Year
Hauritz is rubbish. One of the worst bowlers ever to play ODIs for Australia.
How often have you watched Australian domestic cricket? How often have you seen Hauritz play in the last two years?

He's been in good touch since moving to NSW - not fantastic but hardly 'rubbish.'
 

deeps

International 12th Man
How's this Beau Casson bowling this season, remember, he kept Hogg out of the First Class team a few times last season...
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Of the names mentioned I've only really seen Cam White & his bowling looked to have regressed as quickly as his batting has come on. Struggled to land his leggies on the cut strip at times last (English) summer. I'd say he's a batting all-rounder option at best nowadays.

What about Nye @ QLD? I've never seen him bowl, but seems to been pretty tight in the Ford Ranger this year going by his figures and his batting's a bonus too. In my squad for the Oz domestic dream team comp anyway! :thumbsup:
 

pup11

International Coach
I think Danny Cullen and Hauritz look like the prime contenders to fill in as Australia's next Odi spinner, or maybe somebody else might burst onto the scene by then remember Warney is now working as a spin scout in Australia he might come up with someone talented. :)
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I seem to remember he looked impressive in 2001\02 too. Well done to him on doing it again 6 years later.

What's the betting he bowls well again in 2013\14? Reckon he might get a final shot at playing state cricket again if he did? Or will he be in third-grade by then?
Heh, I can be a grumpy-sounding bugger when I'm not feeling very well. :)
How often have you watched Australian domestic cricket? How often have you seen Hauritz play in the last two years?

He's been in good touch since moving to NSW - not fantastic but hardly 'rubbish.'
None. I don't need to watch a few domestic games to know that a bowler like Hauritz's chances of going from beyond question the worst specialist bowler I've ever seen play cricket for Australia to someone who could ever be international-class is minimal.

Taking an in-depth look at the cards, he clearly wasn't the worst performer in 2006\07, but nor was he anything which remotely suggested "ODI-class!!!" In 2007\08 so far he's been very poor for the most part. Good enough in the first game, likewise in the third, and that was only good, it's not as if he was bowling 10 overs for 17 or 18, or taking 5 or 6 wickets. And apart from those two, nothing of note.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think this is the route we'll end up going down. The wicket taking capability of such an attack is quite mouth-watering really...Although there are plenty of times when spinners come in handy in OD cricket...
That's where Clarke and Symonds can bowl a few overs each. There is no point selecting a spinner when he is an inferior bowler to a seamer.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Hauritz is rubbish. One of the worst bowlers ever to play ODIs for Australia.
Hauritz has bowled very well in domestic OD cricket in the last couple of seasons. Maybe listen to people who've watched those matches, rather than comment with forceful certainty about something you have know way of knowing about?

Anyway, Hauritz is clearly the pick post-Hogg at the moment, if we go for a spinner. Cullen's the other whose shown some promise in OD cricket, but there's a massive gulf between he and Hauritz at the moment. White's no better an OD spinner than Symonds.

Incidentally, this is one time when mentioning Heal isn't actually a total waste of time. I don't think he's ahead of Hauritz yet though.
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Hauritz has bowled very well in domestic OD cricket in the last couple of seasons. Maybe listen to people who've watched those matches, rather than comment with forceful certainty about something you have know way of knowing about?
:laugh: Oh how we have missed Fuller and his responses to my posts (especially those concerning Australians) recently!

So, I wonder who's watched more than 1 or 2 of said matches in the last couple of years then? And I wonder who can manage to claim that 9-59-2 isn't an extremely poor spell?
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Incidentally, this is one time when mentioning Heal isn't actually a total waste of time. I don't think he's ahead of Hauritz yet though.
Haha, so proud of you Fuller.

I know I've orchistrated his rise from obscurity on the forum, to a ridiculous point where he went from pretty under-rated to "He must play in the First Test". His FC form this season has been extremely lax so far, more statistically so than how he's actually bowled, but lax all the same. However, in his few OD appearances so far, he's looked very capabale. He knows how to out-think batsmen when they're going after him, which I believe is a very important skill.

Although his Top End tour was incredible and his games this season have been proficient, it's a fair call to say Cullen or Hauritz are ahead of him.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
:laugh: Oh how we have missed Fuller and his responses to my posts (especially those concerning Australians) recently!

So, I wonder who's watched more than 1 or 2 of said matches in the last couple of years then? And I wonder who can manage to claim that 9-59-2 isn't an extremely poor spell?
His 2/59 wasn't extremely poor by any means. And I'd take Fuller's opinion on Australian Domestic Cricketers above yours any day of the week.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hauritz has to be the next picked. He's bowled really well for NSW this season, and every match I've watched him bowl I've seen a dropped catch off his bowling, and there was one game where Parker didn't give him two decisions that were blatantly out - think against W.A. both times Voges.
 

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