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Australian Domestic Season 2017/18

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Travis Head is making a bit of a habit of playing excellent innings after the game is already almost completely lost. Did it in the last Shield final, seems to be doing the same thing again.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Just by looking at collective stats , it seems the bowling averages of Queensland, Tasmania and Victorian bowlers have been better. Although Victoria (in this case Tremain, Boland) might just be showing their superiority at this level knowing what the general pitches are in Melbourne.

So possibly there is better value to Queensland and Tasmania's batting stats ? You take Renshaw, Labuschagne, Wildermuth up there on the run charts but averaging in the 30s.

You look at SA with all their batsman up there Weatherald, Ferguson, Head, Lehmann, Carey all up there in the run charts and averages (mainly in the 40s with Ferguson 50) apart from Lehmann (low 30s). But the bowlers : Mennie (30.11) , Worrall (33.26) & Sayers (32.82) averaging mediocre 30s
 

Prince EWS

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The Hobart pitch definitely had its days this season when it was spicy. Nothing at the Gabba or the MCG that would make me read into what you're saying at all though; the MCG pitch looked the flattest all season to me (including but not limited to the Test), and the Gabba has probably been as slow as it's ever been. The WACA looked a real ****ing road early season too though, and Adelaide is still easy to bat on in day cricket, so there might be something to this Gabba exception if only due to how many roads we had this season comparatively. SCG had more in it for the bowlers than the Gabba all season though for mine.
 
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SeamUp

International Coach
The Hobart pitch definitely had its days this season when it was spicy. Nothing at the Gabba or the MCG that would make me read into what you're saying at all though; the MCG pitch looked the flattest all season to me (including but not limited to the Test), and the Gabba has probably been as slow as it's ever been. The WACA looked a real ****ing road early season too though, and Adelaide is still easy to bat on in day cricket, so there might be something to this Gabba exception if only due to how many roads we had this season comparatively. SCG had more in it for the bowlers than the Gabba all season though for mine.
Yeah defo MCG - over 7/8 games you've generally had 4 at home and 4 away. So you can judge what the general average is amongst your bowlers. Obviously then you make individual calls. With Tremain and Boland I think it is just a case of doing well at this level for a number of seasons more than pitch conditions.

But when you look at Feldman and Neser averaging 18 you must think there has been a bit in their pitches home and away. Especially considering a batting line-up with Renshaw, Burns, Lanbuschange, Heazlett, Wildermuth are decent young players at a good age. I look at their averages and I think behind the numbers they could be as much if not more value than all the SA boys averaging in the 40s.

I think we all know the WA attack is tough to judge without NCN, Behrendorff. From Jhye Richardson averaging just under 30 as a young buck not at his peak but talented probably doesn't tell enough of the story of what type of pitches WA has played on this season but a bowler like Matt Kelly has taken well to state level and averaging 21 (he isn't express , more skillful).
 

morgieb

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Yeah defo MCG - over 7/8 games you've generally had 4 at home and 4 away. So you can judge what the general average is amongst your bowlers. Obviously then you make individual calls. With Tremain and Boland I think it is just a case of doing well at this level for a number of seasons more than pitch conditions.

But when you look at Feldman and Neser averaging 18 you must think there has been a bit in their pitches home and away. Especially considering a batting line-up with Renshaw, Burns, Lanbuschange, Heazlett, Wildermuth are decent young players at a good age. I look at their averages and I think behind the numbers they could be as much if not more value than all the SA boys averaging in the 40s.

I think we all know the WA attack is tough to judge without NCN, Behrendorff. From Jhye Richardson averaging just under 30 as a young buck not at his peak but talented probably doesn't tell enough of the story of what type of pitches WA has played on this season but a bowler like Matt Kelly has taken well to state level and averaging 21 (he isn't express , more skillful).
Well Burns and Heazlett (and Khawaja) have all averaged 50+ this season. And Renshaw was terrible in the first half of the year.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Well Burns and Heazlett (and Khawaja) have all averaged 50+ this season. And Renshaw was terrible in the first half of the year.
I suppose those 3 have played 5, 4 & 3 games respectively out of the 8.

Take the bowlers averages. It does suggest as a group they've either had the season of their lives or wickets they've played on (home and away) have resulted in not the usual flat track.

Feldman 20.60
Neser 20.73
Doggett 23.71
Wildermuth 27.94
Swepson 38.73
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Yeah that Renshaw averages in the 30s this season has little to do with the pitches.
I know he was out of form. That is obvious. The focus isn't just on Renshaw though.

Comparatively you can have a number of good batsman have a good season but also the type of pitches can make a difference of 35 to 45 average closer than it actually is.

I think as a group each states bowling averages can make better understanding than comparing to other states.

I saw you guys speaking about Feldman and how well he is doing but he is nothing more than a State bowler. I suppose Neser is alright but Doggett didn't look great but there is a pattern with their bowling averages that doesn't suggest they've played on flat decks as much others possibly. Suppose you could possibly see that with which games produced results.
 

NUFAN

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Do you feel that 3-5 is too wishy-washy ?

Cartwright is in such bad form but would balance things nicely when back to his promise from previous seasons.

Saw some of you guys talking about the fast-bowling stocks. It certainly looks lighter than the past. Think it will be interesting to see CA's selections. Richardson just catapulted into the mix shows that. Wonder when Stanlake will play 4-day cricket ?
The 3 to 5 is how I would like to see them bat in an A match, I guess I would say its wishy washy if they playing a Test match together.

With the bowlers it does seem a little weaker compared to other moments but when you think that someone like Tremain is a backup to the 3 backups you think its not all bad.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
I have been very surprised at how well this QLD bowling attack has done this season, it doesn't look that strong on paper but has been consistently effective. The Gabba pitches haven't been massively lively, but still a lot better than the state freeways served up in Perth and Melbourne.

As for Doggett, I have been more impressed than SeamUp to be honest. He's still pretty raw, a fair way off the finished product, but is capable of getting it up around 140 and over in a good spell
 

Midwinter

State Captain
8 rounds of the Shield are done and only Queensland can take a breath on top of the table but even they aren't safe 2 losses and they could be out, one loss and they could be relying on bonus points like the rest of the teams. It's tight.

The two teams that could have consolidated a spot at the top of the table, NSW and Tas played out a rain affected draw and as a result NSW slipped a further place down the ladder to 4th while Tas are now 3rd.
A solid batting performance by the Bluebaggers top order with Henriques tonning up and even Larkin making a good score, Rogers continuing to pick up wickets for the apple eaters with another 4. Tassie responded with an even better effort . Wade scoring his second hundred in consecutive matches, Webster making 136 and Doran having his best season just missing out making 97. The return of SOK and Ed Cowan sending down 14 overs couldn't stop Tassie from losing only 4 wickets.

The Vics continued WA's losing run. Dean and Harris putting a century opening stand to head a solid batting performance Dean scoring his first century for the season, and decent score. The Sandgroper's getting some of the national rep players back put up a decent reply but ended 89 behind. Phillipe scored 62, continuing his impressive season. Tremain took 7 /62 including 4 of the top 5
Finch played probably the innings of the season, making 151no with 7 sixes off 122 balls allowing him to declare 477 in front with over 4 sessions to play. The Vics pacers had WA 8/99 before Inglis slapped 87 off 63 balls,with some help from Kelly,41, to get the score to 208.Tremain 10/143 for the game, Siddle,still struggling to get wickets, 2/100.
The win has vaulted the Vics from last to second place !

Qld had the better of the Croweaters at Adelaide, Renshaw and Heazlett again in the runs. Renshaw with centuries in consecutive games. Winter not as successful as last game but with 3 wickets and Worrall with 4. SA misearable with the bat making 162 only Zampa hitting out at the end with 57 making a decent score. Neser's good form continuing with 4/32 and Swepson cleaning up the last 3 wicket for 24 runs. In the second dig a more modest performance by the Banaanbenders with Labuschagne and Peirson making half centuries and declaring 466 ahead. Again a poor peformace by the SA top order, only Head with 85 doing any good Carey making 98 lifted them from 7/238 to 347. Dggert the star with 5/77.

So that makes Qld 8 points clear on top with 5 points between Vic 2nd and SA last. A win to Qld will see them in the final 2 wins to any of the others would get them into the final. Qld could miss out by losing both games.

The tension is papable !

Batting
Qld Labuschagne 582, Renshaw 532
Vic Maxwell 639, Harris 568
Tas Doran 541, Baily 460
NSW Hughes 517, Patterson 502
WA Bancroft 493, Turner 482
SA Weatherald 657, Ferguson 616

Weatherald still leading run scorer, SA have 4 batsmen over 500 runs (Head & Lehmann)
Doran makes the list for the first time ever !
Renshaw's return to form has him 7th overall
White is averaging 75 since returning to the Vic team
WA's woes are seen with their leading run scorer having only played 4 games.

It would be a safe bet that there wont be 1000 runs scored by anyone this season.

Bowling
Qld Feldman 30, Neser 26
Vic Tremain 39, Boland 34
Tas Rogers 29, Rainbird 27
NSW Copeland 20, Starc 17
WA Mackin 22, Kelly 21
SA Mennie 26,Worrall 23

Tremain and Boland still lead but Tremain has jumped clear with his 10 wicket haul
Tassie still has 4 (Bird & Bell)in the top 9. Rogers averaging 16 for his wickets
Winter now has 21 for SA
Starc is still the Bluebaggers second best bowler despite having played only the first 2 games. Copeland is 16th on the list
Feldmann and Neser are models of consistency
Mackin and Kelly are 12th and 14th respectively

Tremain has a good chance of getting to 50 wickets on his current form. Can't see anyone else doing it.

Spinners

Swepson (11th) 23 @ 38, Fawad 18@46, Zampa 17@46, Lyon 13@22, Holland12@28.

Only Swepson and Zampa played this round.


So next round
Vic vs NSW on 3/3
Tas v SA on 6/3
Qld v WA on 6/3

Top 3 play bottom 3

All teams need to win, only Qld can lose and still be in the final.
If SA or WA lose they are out.
A win to Qld will see them host the final.

Looking forward to it !
:)
 
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brockley

International Captain
Uppal called up for Blues.
Perfect for no 6 and 7,and bowls some good off spin.Definitely good allrounder abilities,manages the 5th bowling position with O'keefe turning it the other way.
 

TheJediBrah

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Uppal called up for Blues.
Perfect for no 6 and 7,and bowls some good off spin.Definitely good allrounder abilities,manages the 5th bowling position with O'keefe turning it the other way.
Maybe he'll be the good version of what Arjun Nair was supposed to be
 

brockley

International Captain
Would hate to do the NSW contracts in the off season.
Poor performances first class level,aspiring 2nd xl and Under 19 players on review.Then throw Pete Forrest in2 the mix.Then questions like will Ed play on?
 

Midwinter

State Captain
SOK is back, 7/72 at the moment.

So much for Vic's top order , without Harris 109 out 161 when dismissed it would be pitiful.
 

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