Australia/New Zealand motorsport thread

[Flem274*]

Russell Ingall falls from 1st to 6 (podiums/wins the decider). Jason Bright falls from 9th to 21st. Murphy from 11th to 3rd . Proves how quick he was if the PWR commodore felt like finishing. I think the four factory Holdens had the same reliability issues.

Also confirms Lowndes and Ambrose dominated the season. Nice little boost for Tasman here, and Paul Radisich gains places from the IRL results because he dragged that TKR dumpster to 6th a lot. Kelly and especially Ellery and Dumbrell buried by their team mates (Weel too but he owned the team so..)

 

[Coronis]

Russell Ingall falls from 1st to 6 (podiums/wins the decider). Jason Bright falls from 9th to 21st. Murphy from 11th to 3rd . Proves how quick he was if the PWR commodore felt like finishing. I think the four factory Holdens had the same reliability issues.

Also confirms Lowndes and Ambrose dominated the season. Nice little boost for Tasman here, and Paul Radisich gains places from the IRL results because he dragged that TKR dumpster to 6th a lot. Kelly and especially Ellery and Dumbrell buried by their team mates (Weel too but he owned the team so..)

tbh, I’ve never been a fan of the F1 points system. Though it does make a “points finish” more valuable, I prefer teams being rewarded for consistency and making it through the race. A ton of the “retire the car” calls are simply because the car has no chance of getting points, miss seeing the crews really working on cars to make sure they finish. It also causes stuff like 1 good result being rewarded over consistency. Like say for an example you could have one team finishing 18th-19th every race and having one lucky points finish and beating guys who were consistently running in/around the edge of the 10 (hello Alpine vs Williams)

 

[Flem274*]

And to pick up where I left off with the Mark Skaife 2006 "16th" bullshit by applying the old school F1 system:

Garth Tander 125 points (4th)
Craig Lowndes 118 points (2nd)
Jason Bright 107 points (5th)
Todd Kelly 100 points (6th)
Rick Kelly 88 points (1st)
Mark Skaife 87 points (16th)
Mark Winterbottom 79 points (3rd)

I haven't done everyone for 2006 just the guys with 3+ race wins.

 

[Flem274*]

tbh, I’ve never been a fan of the F1 points system. Though it does make a “points finish” more valuable, I prefer teams being rewarded for consistency and making it through the race. A ton of the “retire the car” calls are simply because the car has no chance of getting points, miss seeing the crews really working on cars to make sure they finish. It also causes stuff like 1 good result being rewarded over consistency. Like say for an example you could have one team finishing 18th-19th every race and having one lucky points finish and beating guys who were consistently running in/around the edge of the 10 (hello Alpine vs Williams)

I agree points down to 6 was miserly in a manufacturer series but I think it has merit in a semi-spec series with 30+ races, since one outlier will be diluted and you don't get brutally reamed for a DNF by Captain Always 12th. 2005 would have been absolutely wild with the F1 points system.

I hate the artificial closeness of the Supercars points system so I think points going to 10 would be a decent compromise, especially now.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

tbh, I’ve never been a fan of the F1 points system. Though it does make a “points finish” more valuable, I prefer teams being rewarded for consistency and making it through the race. A ton of the “retire the car” calls are simply because the car has no chance of getting points, miss seeing the crews really working on cars to make sure they finish. It also causes stuff like 1 good result being rewarded over consistency. Like say for an example you could have one team finishing 18th-19th every race and having one lucky points finish and beating guys who were consistently running in/around the edge of the 10 (hello Alpine vs Williams)

Yeah I'm 100% in agreeance with this. Especially the bit about entirely repairable cars being retired, saw plenty of that in 2007 where points were indeed limited to the top 15. That being said, the grid being (unfortunately) 6 or 7 cars smaller now would minimise that a bit if they went to a number of points scorers like 15 again. 10 is definitely too few though imo