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Australia name Chappell-Hadlee Trophy squad

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
And that would make sense to me - no point using him if the conditions don't help.
Yeah you're right, but Ponting uses Lehmann all the time. Given recent performances, especially in ODIs, Clarke is every bit as good as Lehmann.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Take a look at their respective career records in all List A games though, and consider how effective Lehmann has been for Yorkshire.

That's why he's used ahead of Clarke (who to be honest has a much more ordinary record)
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Mr Casson said:
Yeah you're right, but Ponting uses Lehmann all the time. Given recent performances, especially in ODIs, Clarke is every bit as good as Lehmann.
There's a surprise. 8-)
Clarke is infitesimally superior to Lehmann in every recent regard in your eyes.
Might I remind you of the first-innings at Adelaide: Lehmann 81, Clarke 7. Lehmann 2-55, Clarke DNB.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Mister Wright said:
I dispute Hogg playing in the strongest side. Surely 10 overs of spin can be covered by Symonds, Lehmann & Clarke. Symonds alone is better spinner than Hogg.
err no, an economy rate of 4.87 as opposed to an ER of 4.36 is not comparable. hogg seems to be the best spinning option australia have got so i would consider playing him on any slow wicket.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
marc71178 said:
WC2003 was not a farcical tournament, how many times will you keep saying things like that?
err kenya reached the semis, 2 games were completely decided by the toss, zimbabwe reached the super six stage, what more do you want?
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Mr Casson said:
Yeah you're right, but Ponting uses Lehmann all the time. Given recent performances, especially in ODIs, Clarke is every bit as good as Lehmann.
as his brilliant average of 27 in ODIs this year(outside of zim) suggests.....
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
tooextracool said:
err kenya reached the semis, 2 games were completely decided by the toss, zimbabwe reached the super six stage, what more do you want?

the best 2 teams made the final and the best team won....
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Take a look at their respective career records in all List A games though, and consider how effective Lehmann has been for Yorkshire.

That's why he's used ahead of Clarke (who to be honest has a much more ordinary record)

that and clarke wouldn't want to ruin his career test bowling figures ;)
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Take a look at their respective career records in all List A games though, and consider how effective Lehmann has been for Yorkshire.
Lehmann is a more defensive bowler, bowls at a slower pace, useful for restriction particularly. Clarke is more attacking and can be more than a handful in suitable conditions.
 

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
Richard said:
There's a surprise. 8-)
Clarke is infitesimally superior to Lehmann in every recent regard in your eyes.
Might I remind you of the first-innings at Adelaide: Lehmann 81, Clarke 7. Lehmann 2-55, Clarke DNB.
Might I remind you of India? Compare the two there. What a poor argument, using Adelaide as the sole basis for comparison.
 
I simply can't comprehend this thread - to my knowledge Ray Hadley has never played for Australia - he's gonna pull someone's f*in ears when he hears about this!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
tooextracool said:
err no, an economy rate of 4.87 as opposed to an ER of 4.36 is not comparable. hogg seems to be the best spinning option australia have got so i would consider playing him on any slow wicket.

Well roll me in flour and call me a rissole! - a whole 0.5 more runs an over, whoopedy doo dah!. An economy rate of 4.36 is nothing to rave about, I would rather have another bowler or batsman play, as I have said before both Symonds & Lehmann can fill in the 10 overs. I wouldn't consider playing him on any wicket.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
Seems to me that Katich's selection is something of a "we haven't forgotten about you mate", from the selectors, as much as anything else.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Slow Love™ said:
Seems to me that Katich's selection is something of a "we haven't forgotten about you mate", from the selectors, as much as anything else.

That's the only reason they have selected 14 I think. N.S.W. won't be happy.
 

shaka

International Regular
Harvey is not a surprise omission from the team, because he is still injured. He will be a loss to the team.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
shaka said:
Harvey is not a surprise omission from the team, because he is still injured. He will be a loss to the team.

Firstly, Harvey is back playing now. Secondly, he will not be a loss to the team.
 

Camel56

Banned
Pinkline Jones said:
I simply can't comprehend this thread - to my knowledge Ray Hadley has never played for Australia - he's gonna pull someone's f*in ears when he hears about this!

Yes pinky he certainly will be. At the very least he will want to find the spastic who came up with the idea.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
age_master said:
Lehmann is a more defensive bowler, bowls at a slower pace, useful for restriction particularly. Clarke is more attacking and can be more than a handful in suitable conditions.
In an ODI you don't need your marmite to attack.
 

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