Aus XI india tour?

[Pup Clarke]

Will Jadeja be fit for this series? Will be a tantalising contest him bowling to Smith and Marnus

 

[social]

In relation to Haze, it’s ludicrous to me that some are binning one of the world’s best bowlers because of past performances

You guys do know that he’s taken a 6 fer in India and I am pretty confident that he’s a better bowler than he was 6 years ago

Anyway, simple fact is that our backup spinners aren’t much good so picking them is likely a waste of a selection

 

[TimAngas]

In relation to Haze, it’s ludicrous to me that some are binning one of the world’s best bowlers because of past performances

You guys do know that he’s taken a 6 fer in India and I am pretty confident that he’s a better bowler than he was 6 years ago

Anyway, simple fact is that our backup spinners aren’t much good so picking them is likely a waste of a selection

The other thing that gives me greater confidence in Hazlewood is that his time in the IPL and focus on LO cricket in recent years means he'll have a greater ability to accurately bowl cutters on a slow pitch.

 

[Spark]

In relation to Haze, it’s ludicrous to me that some are binning one of the world’s best bowlers because of past performances

You guys do know that he’s taken a 6 fer in India and I am pretty confident that he’s a better bowler than he was 6 years ago

Anyway, simple fact is that our backup spinners aren’t much good so picking them is likely a waste of a selection

You're going to be picking four quicks on dusty turners ffs. It'll look ridiculous the moment the teamsheet is announced, like England did when they had exactly the same philosophy. Pick Chris Green or Sean Abbott if you have to, at least they can bat, but picking a fourth specialist quick who may well bowl less than Travis Head or Marnus Labuschagne and bat 10 or 11 because "bEsT fOuR bOwLeRs" is just horrible horrible horrible selection policy. It is tantamount to playing with ten men.

 

[Gob]

Murphy is quick through the air isn't he bit like Swann. Might compliment Lyon's loopy off spin

 

[_00_deathscar]

You're going to be picking four quicks on dusty turners ffs. It'll look ridiculous the moment the teamsheet is announced, like England did when they had exactly the same philosophy. Pick Chris Green or Sean Abbott if you have to, at least they can bat, but picking a fourth specialist quick who may well bowl less than Travis Head or Marnus Labuschagne and bat 10 or 11 because "bEsT fOuR bOwLeRs" is just horrible horrible horrible selection policy. It is tantamount to playing with ten men.

Depends on the quality of the bowler surely? NZ binning Wagner to play some absolute spud Pant took apart was hilarious, for instance

 

[Shady Slim]

Renshaw, Khawaaaahja, Marnus, Smith, Head, Green, Carey, Cummins, Starc, Lyon, Murphy for me

@GoodAreasShane see i’m not the only one who wants this

 

[Shady Slim]

I will continue doing Agar's PR until he inevitably takes none for 100 in the second innings in Nagpur.

noting apropos of nothing here that your avi is marcus harris

 

[Spark]

Depends on the quality of the bowler surely? NZ binning Wagner to play some absolute spud Pant took apart was hilarious, for instance

Not unless they bring something different to the attack (which Wagner does) or they take a significant workload on their own.

Like I really can't emphasise this enough: there is a reason he Hazlewood kept getting left out last year and it's not because they think he's bad. The one game he played in the subcontinent, he bowled basically the same number of overs as Marnus Labuschagne while batting 11. I for one do not think it wise selection to simply copy-paste a team from Australian conditions into India and pick a guy who bowls good part timer quantity of overs simply because we couldn't be bothered to do something more useful with that spot.

Pick Todd Murphy, pick Chris Green or Sean Abbott or even Matt Renshaw and bat him 7, just don't pick four quicks in India where the fourth quick bats 11 ffs.

 

[Daemon]

India is a lot better for quicks than Pakistan tbf

4 quicks is overkill though

 

[social]

We don’t have 4 frontline quicks

We have 3 plus an highly talented youngster who averages 13 overs per test

Anyway, fun fact time

The Windies won a 5 test series in India with their spinners taking a grand total of 3 wickets

Bumrah averages 15 with the ball at home

Shami 21

Yadav 25

Kumar 26

Siraj 16

Ishant 31

Australia’s quicks are better than them all bar Bumrah but do tell me how you can’t bowl pace in India & how far lesser bowlers will be the answer because they’re slower

 

[R!TTER]

Oz quicks aren't better in India than the leading pacers we've played, since 2004 Indian quicks have consistently outbowled Aussies in the test series here including & up to 2017 one. In fact Umesh was by far the best pacer that series & if he'd have had some more luck, & support from Ishant, we could've forced a result at Ranchi. In the last 19 odd years post the 2004 series defeat only 1 pacer has consistently outbowled Indian pacers in India & no he's not from England.

 

[honestbharani]

We don’t have 4 frontline quicks

We have 3 plus an highly talented youngster who averages 13 overs per test

Anyway, fun fact time

The Windies won a 5 test series in India with their spinners taking a grand total of 3 wickets

Bumrah averages 15 with the ball at home

Shami 21

Yadav 25

Kumar 26

Siraj 16

Ishant 31

Australia’s quicks are better than them all bar Bumrah but do tell me how you can’t bowl pace in India & how far lesser bowlers will be the answer because they’re slower

Indian seamers in India post 2015 is a bit like Lyon in Australia. It is really not reflective of how the opposition bowlers of the same type may go. But yes, playing in Feb-March in the northern belt means your seamers will be in business even if the tracks are turners, unless they are slow turners, which means Pujara will bat for 2 days and the draw will suddenly become an option after looking like a 0% chance for the first 3 days.

 

[Spark]

Hazlewood is going to play the first game anyway so he can push his case there. But if we roll up to an Ahmedebad turner which is crumbling on Day 1 and go "gee let's pick exactly the same bowling attack as we do at Brisbane" then something will have gone severely wrong, and one of the most extreme cases of the inflexibility in bowling selection which cost us against India in particular in the Langer era.

 

[Xix2565]

I do wonder what you think of Hazlewood's 6fer at Bangalore then as far as subcontinental performances go.

 

[honestbharani]

I think on a regular Nagpur track, the side you played at Sydney would be perfectly fine.

 

[Spark]

I do wonder what you think of Hazlewood's 6fer at Bangalore then as far as subcontinental performances go.

My point isn't even really about Hazlewood, it's about the balance of the attack now that that there are lots of options and a fast-bowling all-rounder. It's not a comparable situation. If you pick that many fast bowlers on a track that demands spin, then someone is going to get squeezed out. It's just the hard truth of it and no real reflection on Hazlewood's quality.

 

[Xix2565]

My point isn't even really about Hazlewood, it's about the balance of the attack now that that there are lots of options and a fast-bowling all-rounder. It's not a comparable situation. If you pick that many fast bowlers on a track that demands spin, then someone is going to get squeezed out. It's just the hard truth of it and no real reflection on Hazlewood's quality.

I meant in terms of pecking order for the pacers.

 

[Spark]

I meant in terms of pecking order for the pacers.

I think it's well established now that it goes Cummins > Starc > Hazlewood. Particularly given concerns about his fitness and in-game endurance (and the fact that he offers nothing with the bat, even in theory). Starc (and Green) by all reports is going to miss the first Test though so like I said, he's going to get his opportunity.

 

[Sunil1z]

We don’t have 4 frontline quicks

We have 3 plus an highly talented youngster who averages 13 overs per test

Anyway, fun fact time

The Windies won a 5 test series in India with their spinners taking a grand total of 3 wickets

Bumrah averages 15 with the ball at home

Shami 21

Yadav 25

Kumar 26

Siraj 16

Ishant 31

Australia’s quicks are better than them all bar Bumrah but do tell me how you can’t bowl pace in India & how far lesser bowlers will be the answer because they’re slower

Lol no.
Starc won’t even make Indian side .

This would be combined bowling line up for Indian conditions:

Bumrah
Cummins
Jadeja
Ashwin .

Hazlewood will replace Ashwin in Australia.