• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Auction draft II - ODI

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
That is because he is.....
You mean as good as Richards, Sachin or Abbas?...No way...Gilchrist is comparable to someone like Sehwag as an ODI batsman (might be slightly better than him), and is a rank below the very best, definitely...The fact that he was a wicketkeeper too makes him a bloody useful ODI player (I shall use the word al-rounder here), and makes him a favorite player of many including you and me. That makes them sometimes overestimate his ODI batting, as I mentioned before.
 
Last edited:

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Both my reserve players are up for trade...The first one to offer will get the deal finalised...Offer me any junk player and get Utseya or Kanitkar...Trading doesn't get better than this... :)
Yes, it does. You could offer me players that are actually better than my 12th and 13th men :p
 

Himannv

Hall of Fame Member
You mean as good as Richards, Sachin or Abbas?...No way...Gilchrist is comparable to someone like Sehwag as an ODI batsman (might be slightly better than him), and is a rank below the very best, definitely...The fact that he was a wicketkeeper too makes him a bloody useful ODI player (I shall use the word al-rounder here), and makes him a favorite player of many including you and me. That makes them sometimes overestimate his ODI batting, as I mentioned before.
Sachin is the best :D
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You mean as good as Richards, Sachin or Abbas?...No way...Gilchrist is comparable to someone like Sehwag as an ODI batsman (might be slightly better than him), and is a rank below the very best, definitely...The fact that he was a wicketkeeper too makes him a bloody useful ODI player (I shall use the word al-rounder here), and makes him a favorite player of many including you and me. That makes them sometimes overestimate his ODI batting, as I mentioned before.
He would make most peoples all time side as an opener alone though, think that qualifies him as one of the best of all time.

Anway I am sure your side is the best:) can see it means so much.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
So I can sort a vote (and also post my opinions of the 10 sides) can I have captains from G.I.Joe, Noble One and Pothas and a wicket-keeper (and final choice between Mushtaq Ahmed and Mendis) from Somerset please?
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Nick Knight (100 ODIs, 3,637 runs @ 40.41)
Michael Vaughan (86 ODIs, 1,982 runs @ 27.15, 16 wickets @ 40.56)
Kumar Sangakkara (271 ODIs, 8,336 runs @ 36.72)
Andy Flower (wk) (213 ODIs, 6,786 runs @ 35.34, 141 catches and 32 stumpings)
VVS Laxman (86 ODIs, 2,338 runs @ 30.76)
Sir Garfield Sobers (1 ODI, 0 runs @ 0.00, 1 wicket @ 31.00)
Ravi Shastri (150 ODIs, 3,108 runs @ 29.04, 129 wickets @ 36.04)
Shane Warne (c) (194 ODIs, 1,018 runs @ 13.05, 293 wickets @ 25.73)
Makhaya Ntini (173 ODIs, 199 runs @ 8.65, 266 wickets @ 24.65)
Craig McDermott (138 ODIs, 432 runs @ 7.08, 203 wickets @ 24.71)
Ajantha Mendis (36 ODIs, 81 runs @ 8.10, 71 wickets @ 16.36)

12th man: Mushtaq Ahmed (144 ODIs, 399 runs @ 9.50, 161 wickets @ 33.29)
13th man: Sreesanth (46 ODIs, 34 runs @ 4.33, 65 wickets @ 33.75)

Strengths:
- Spin bowling army led by the brilliant Shane Warne and containing the unorthodox Ajantha Mendis - given the majority of the players in the other sides in this draft contain players which have never faced Mendis, he plays ahead of Mushtaq Ahmed. Shastri and Sobers (after a spell of pace bowling) also provide spin options.
- Hardly a flashy but highly effective opening pace duo of Ntini and McDermott, with more than 450 wickets between them.
- Arguably the second best cricketer to ever play the game in the form of Sir Garfield Sobers.
- No trashy player even in the reserves with Mushtaq Ahmed (in particular) and Sreesanth having respectable figures at international level.
- A batting line-up of style and class. Racing to totals well in excess of 300 might be an issue, but the solidarity of the line-up would ensure we're never dismissed for a mediocre score. Players like Flower, Sangakkara and Laxman (and indeed Sobers and Shastri) are particular experts to counter spin-bowling, which would obviously be the home pitch conditions.
- Experience. Warne captains the side though he has plenty of expertise to rely on from Vaughan, Sobers, Sangakkara, et al.

Weaknesses:
- Weak tail with 9-10-11 averaging in single figures.
- The lack of an out-and-out aggressive player to set the tone of the innings at the top of the order in the form of a Sehwag, Jayasuriya, Afridi, etc.
- The gamble of selecting Sobers with just one ODI to his name.
- Besides Sobers and Warne, none of the other players would be realistic candidates for "legend" status in the history of the game.
- Classical players like Vaughan and Laxman more suited to the longer format of the game.

Considering both the strengths and weaknesses, I'm happy with my side given my budget constraints for much of the draft after I overspent during the opening few rounds. I think my team is under-rated and doubt it would be favourite to take out any theoretical competition - though I'm confident it would have the ability to surprise a few teams. If we were to set home conditions, essentially we'd set a minefield for spinners and have close to 40 overs of spin bowling in our 50 overs in the field (perhaps even playing Mushtaq Ahmed ahead of Shastri or McDermott/Ntini) - scores of 150 might not entertain the fans but it'd be a winning strategy IMO with our batsmen well equipped to handle the conditions).
 
Last edited:

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Cheers - will combine the teams tonight and start a thread along with my ratings of the teams (I've done 10 different categories and ranked them 1 to 10 in each category)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Well, thought it'd be interesting to take stats out of the equation (to a degree) and try to look at the teams objectively (rather than individuals claiming their teams to be the best)

Also, need to start getting myself into that sort of mode as I intend entering weldone's auction draft.
 

Himannv

Hall of Fame Member
Gilchrist as an opener? After watching far too many match winning destructive knocks of his, I think as a pure batsman he certainly has a shot at getting an all time slot.

Anyway, moving on to more important things, when is the next draft?
 

Top