Auction draft II - ODI

[honestbharani]

Come on, we all are talking about opinions here. Of course, it was my opinion, not Christ's. Don't act like you didn't know that.

I said that because I am pretty sure most on this forum would rate Gilly better than Boucher as a keeper to fast bowlers...

 

[honestbharani]

Arrange for a 7 match sim, someone?

Talking about taking things serious...... Yeah sure you are treating this as fun..



I am up for it, as an aside... I did think it was a fun exercise but it looks like it is wrong to post some opinions that goes against someone else's here...

 

[Himannv]

Excellent batting line up.. BOwling a little short.. Would personally play Lehmann at 3.. Didn't he bat top order for his FC side for a very long time?

Considered playing Lehmann at 3 but in ODI's he's batted there only once (probably due to Ponting taking the one drop slot I reckon). He's batted mostly at 4 and averages above 40 in that position so I reckon he would do ok. He's got an awesome FC record, but I'm not sure which position he generally batted.

Cronje on the other hand, mostly batted at 3 in ODI's and averaged over 40 there.

I did consider playing 3. Lehmann 4. Border and 5. Cronje but decided to go the other way in the end lol.

 

[honestbharani]

Considered playing Lehmann at 3 but in ODI's he's batted there only once (probably due to Ponting taking the one drop slot I reckon). He's batted mostly at 4 and averages above 40 in that position so I reckon he would do ok. He's got an awesome FC record, but I'm not sure which position he generally batted.

Cronje on the other hand, mostly batted at 3 in ODI's and averaged over 40 there.

I did consider playing 3. Lehmann 4. Border and 5. Cronje but decided to go the other way in the end lol.

yeah.. but really good side as I said. Perhaps bowling falls down a wee bit. But really strong.

 

[Himannv]

yeah.. but really good side as I said. Perhaps bowling falls down a wee bit. But really strong.

Yeah the likes of Lehmann, Border, Cronje and Tendulkar may have to help out the bowling in case Mathews and Shakib have a bad time of it. On the whole I think they can more or less manage the job. I believe Garner, Roberts and Murali will all probably bowl out their 10 overs.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah the likes of Lehmann, Border, Cronje and Tendulkar may have to help out the bowling in case Mathews and Shakib have a bad time of it. On the whole I think they can more or less manage the job. I believe Garner, Roberts and Murali will all probably bowl out their 10 overs.

yeah.. thing is, in a hypothetical tournament, given the batting line up of most sides here, they can easily take apart the 20 overs outside those 3.. Otherwise your side is amongst the best..

 

[weldone]

Oops.. forgot Ambrose while counting greats... Apolgies...

Pollock is surely the best player in my team (more valuable to the team than Bevan or Ambrose, or Jayasuriya). He's right up there with the best when it comes to bowling in ODIs; and considering his value as a power-hitter at the deck, he's a true ODI champ.

 

[Cevno]

My team with averages for the voting thread -

Sunil Gavaskar (3092 runs @ 35.13. Strike rate - 62.26)
Chris Gayle (7885 runs @ 39.42 SR-83.77,156 Wickets @ 34.58 Eco - 4.74)
Michael Clarke (5509 runs @ 43.03 SR-77.26, 52 Wkts @ 36.26 Eco - 5.06)
Kevin Pietersen (3332 runs @ 42.17 SR - 86.50, 6 Wkts @ 41)
Greg Chappell (C) (2331 runs @ 40.18 SR - 75.70 ,72 Wkts @ 29.12 Eco - 4.04)
Mohinder Amarnath (1924 runs @ 30.53 SR - 57.70 ,46 Wkts @ 42.84 Eco - 4.33)
Andrew Flintoff (3394 runs @ 32.01 SR - 88.82 ,169 Wkts @ 24.38 Eco - 4.39)
Brad Haddin (WK) (1796 runs @ 32.65 SR - 84.27)
Abdul Qadir (641 runs @ 15.46 ,132 Wkts @ 26.16 Eco - 4.06)
Malcolm Marshall (955 runs @ 14.92 SR - 76.64 ,157 Wkts @ 26.96 Eco - 3.53)
Terry Alderman (88 Wkts @ 23.36 Eco - 3.65)

Reserves

1)Trevor Chappell (229 runs @ 17.61 SR - 62.73 , 19 Wkts @ 28.31 Eco - 4.38)
2)Daniel Vettori (1895 runs @ 17.07 SR - 82.57 , 268 Wkts @ 31.22 Eco - 4.14)

Still confused between Qadir and Vettori ,what do you guys think?

Btw,i am pretty pleased with my team .It has excellent bowling as well as batting options and a number of them as well ,which is perfect for limited over crickets.The weakest link is perhaps Amarnath who i regard as a good ODI player too.

Also i have perhaps the strongest bench and can count on the likes of Trevor Chappell and Vettori to come in on a slower pitch as well as in case of injuries.
Will do a detailed write up if i get time.

 

[weldone]

Still confused between Qadir and Vettori ,what do you guys think?

Qadir, without a doubt...

 

[Blakus]

Qadir, without a doubt...

Awta. I'd only take Vettori over Qadir if you were short on batting, which you clearly aren't.

 

[marc71178]

I'd argue a case for both with no Amarnath

 

[Cevno]

1. Graeme Smith (149 ODI, 5613 Runs @ 40.67)
2. Sourav Ganguly (311 ODI, 11363 Runs @ 41.02, 100 Wickets @ 38.49)
3. Herscelle Gibbs (248 ODI, 8094 Runs @ 36.13)
4. Stephen Fleming (280 ODI, 8037 Runs @ 32.40)
5. Imran Khan (175 ODI, 3709 Runs @ 33.41, 182 Wickets @ 26.61)
6. Lance Klusener (171 ODI, 3576 Runs @ 41.10, 192 Wickets @ 29.95)
7. Brendan McCullum (171 ODI, 3569 Runs @ 29.01, 189 Ctch, 13 Stmp)
8. Shahid Afridi (296 ODI, 6222 Runs @ 23.93, 278 Wickets @ 34.73)
9. Ian Harvey (73 ODI, 715 Runs @ 17.87, 85 Wickets @ 30.31)
10. Nathan Bracken (116 ODI, 199 Runs @ 11.70, 174 Wickets @ 24.36)
11. Shoaib Akhtar (147 ODI, 377 Runs @ 9.66, 227 Wickets @ 23.96)

12. Paul Collingwood (182 ODI, 4843 Runs @ 36.96, 103 Wickets @ 38.86)
13. Pommie Mbangwa (29 ODI, 34 Runs @ 4.85, 11 Wickets @ 103.63)

I will compile a more detailed analysis of my side later.

I will give you Vettori for Gibbs, Ganguly or Collingwood if you are interested?

It will improve your spinning options instead of Afridi and give me a batting option.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Only one man in there has MoM awards in a World Cup Semifinal and Final tbf, I wouldn't drop him purely for that fact.


Besides, the more dibbly dobbly bowlers we face, the better

 

[G.I.Joe]

All of my players are up for trades. 1ly serious offers plz.

 

[weldone]

I said that because I am pretty sure most on this forum would rate Gilly better than Boucher as a keeper to fast bowlers...

That might be the case. Just like many here consider Miller to be a better bowler than Lindwall, or many here in CW (at least I know some) consider Gilchrist to be among the best ODI batsmen ever, or many overestimate the bowling capabilities of Sobers. Some of the greatest al-rounders are among our favorite players, and hence in our subconscious we sometimes overestimate their prowess in one function. I, too, sometimes make this mistake.

I'm in no way suggesting that there is a huge difference between Boucher's and Gilchrist's wicketkeeping ability to fast bowlers (just like Lindwall and Miller are probably comparable bowlers). Just saying that our minds are sometimes biased in these comparisons due to understandable reasons. More so in case of wicketkeeping skills where we can't use any stats for comparison.

Boucher is as good a keeper to fast bowlers as I've seen live, and yes that's definitely my opinion.

 

[Himannv]

I'd argue a case for both with no Amarnath

Agree completely. That batting order is strong enough without Amarnath, and Vettori is fairly handy with the bat anyway. It gives better options for the 5th bowler.

 

[weldone]

All of my players are up for trades. 1ly serious offers plz.

Both my reserve players are up for trade...The first one to offer will get the deal finalised...Offer me any junk player and get Utseya or Kanitkar...Trading doesn't get better than this...

 

[Pothas]

That might be the case. Just like many here consider Miller to be a better bowler than Lindwall, or many here in CW (at least I know some) consider Gilchrist to be among the best ODI batsmen ever .

That is because he is.....

 

[pskov]

Dilshan
Stewart+
Lara
Kanhai
Lloyd*
Symonds
Kemp
Wasim
Saqlain
Willis
Lillee

Ali
Blewett

I'm at work at the moment so I will expand on this a bit more once I get home, but I think my team is really good. Explosive batting, especially in the crucial 5-8 spots and arguably the best bowling lineup. Also a terrific fielding side which is very important in ODIs and something I think a lot of other teams have overlooked.

 

[honestbharani]

Anyone who can give me a good lower order option here (bat + bowl).. I am putting up Walsh/Gillespie for the trade...