Asia cup 2022

[Migara]

Now 24 year old Rashid Khan, in 2011

Danny clearly triggered him with the question of "how old are you?"

 

[cnerd123]

Makes for terrible tournament where toss is deciding factor

It's weird how the chasing team has almost always won this tournament, with some record breaking chases in there too. There's no dew to speak of, and these aren't early morning games where the new ball does loads for an hour then the pitch flattens out.

It might just be the slow nature of the pitches makes setting a total tricky? Or maybe it says something about how all the teams have approached batting this tournament?

 

[Xuhaib]

Now 24 year old Rashid Khan, in 2011

Danny clearly triggered him with the question of "how old are you?"

People from North of Pakistan tend to get mature faces probably to do with genetics much earlier then others I am guessing Afghanistani share the same genetics it's possible Rashid is slightly older then his actual age but it's not the exaggerated 5-6 years age fudging as most think.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Now 24 year old Rashid Khan, in 2011

Danny clearly triggered him with the question of "how old are you?"

I looked like this when I was 14 tbh

 

[honestbharani]

People from North of Pakistan tend to get mature faces probably to do with genetics much earlier then others I am guessing Afghanistani share the same genetics it's possible Rashid is slightly older then his actual age but it's not the exaggerated 5-6 years age fudging as most think.

He literally posted on SM that he was inspired by watching Imran Khan lift the WC. There is noway he was not at least born in the mid-to-late 80s IMO. Isn't it an established fact that people only get birth certificates after their kids are 5 or higher in most of those regions anyways?

 

[Xuhaib]

He literally posted on SM that he was inspired by watching Imran Khan lift the WC. There is no he was not at least born in the mid 80s IMO. Isn't it an established fact that people only get birth certificates after their kids are 5 or higher in most of those regions anyways?

I never knew he made such a statement fair enough.

Was just speaking from personal expiernce in middle and high school the pathan boys always looked bigger then rest of us both physically and facialy we were always at a disadvantage with the girls don't think all of them were age fudging especially the ones with karachi domicile.

 

[subshakerz]

This match aside, India is still objectively a better team than Pakistan. Pakistan only won based on India not performing to par.

Indian misfielding and drops are more of bugs than they are features for Pakistan. Pakistan lacks a solid middle/late order and their pacers blow hot/cold way too often.

Pakistan sending left-hander Nawaz up screwed Indian plans but until that point Indian had Pakistan's number. And if there wasn't that dropped catch at the end, Pakistan could still have lost.

 

[honestbharani]

Pak team being tactically flexible is a very good thing for Pakistan though. I think their biggest issue, both the country and the cricket team, is how India centric everything about them seems to be. They just gotta start aiming bigger than just beating India in every tournament we play.

 

[Apex Predator]

This match aside, India is still objectively a better team than Pakistan. Pakistan only won based on India not performing to par.

Indian misfielding and drops are more of bugs than they are features for Pakistan. Pakistan lacks a solid middle/late order and their pacers blow hot/cold way too often.

Pakistan sending left-hander Nawaz up screwed Indian plans but until that point Indian had Pakistan's number. And if there wasn't that dropped catch at the end, Pakistan could still have lost.

Lol at Pace attack... This is telly tubby attack India has put up. The Pakistani pace attack will be more than handful in Australia. Extremely impressed with the pace & bounce these guys generated on a flat pitch.
That being said the spin duo was the difference.. In straight 2 games. Shadab has outbowled Chahal again.

 

[honestbharani]

Ideally, we should play this line up going forward -

Rohit
Pant (wk)
Virat
SKY
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

But we will instead play,

Rohit
Rahul
Virat
SKY
Pant (wk)
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

 

[Apex Predator]

Ideally, we should play this line up going forward -

Rohit
Pant (wk)
Virat
SKY
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

But we will instead play,

Rohit
Rahul
Virat
SKY
Pant (wk)
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

Axar & Ash can be rotated based on match ups... SL has lot of left handers in the middle order so having Ashwin will be good idea along with Bishnoi. Axar vs Afg & Pak.

 

[ankitj]

This forum is boring when it comes to following India Pakistan games. So much competitive gambhiring going on. Like, even after a win Pak posters seem to be grieving.

 

[Socerer 01]

Ideally, we should play this line up going forward -

Rohit
Pant (wk)
Virat
SKY
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

But we will instead play,

Rohit
Rahul
Virat
SKY
Pant (wk)
Hardik
Hooda
Axar
Bhuvi
Bishnoi
Arshdeep

are you honestly suggesting dropping the guy who averages nearly 40 with a sr of 140 for the one who averages 23 with a sr of 126? That too with the latter guy batting out of position?

 

[Migara]

People from North of Pakistan tend to get mature faces probably to do with genetics much earlier then others I am guessing Afghanistani share the same genetics it's possible Rashid is slightly older then his actual age but it's not the exaggerated 5-6 years age fudging as most think.

he has a moustache FFS. He is at least 15 in 2011. With that build it is more like 18. Afgahnis are no different from Khazaks or Steppe dwellers, and there you don't get many 15 years looking like this. Given he has grown up in a camp with poor nutrition, this becomes more distant possibility.

 

[slippy888]

Should have Arshdeep bowled 19th over considering he a better Yorker bowler than Bhuvi

 

[Xuhaib]

On Pakpassion I read some blokes want Sharjeel Khan to replace Rizwan if Pakistan has to get at the next level in T 20 format. Seriously what you have to eat to be this level of stupid.

 

[honestbharani]

Rizwan and Fakhar should open with Babar at 3 as your fail safe anchor. Rizwan has to go for his shots more than he does today. And you need someone who can bat long while still having the capability to find boundaries at will at 4. Dunno if any of Khushdil/Asif/Iftikhar are that good.

An ideal T20 side has one anchor-ish opener and a hitter at the top, a failsafe anchor at 3 and a hitter who can bat long at 4. Then your allrounders and then 3 bowlers, at least 2 of whom can hit big shots.

For India, I would go with

Rohit
Pant/Rahul/Ishan (wk)
Virat
SKY
Jaddu
Hardik
DK/Hooda / another hitter
D Chahar
Bhuvi
Bishnoi/Chahal
Bumrah

India does not have the last part but otherwise this side will work. For Pakistan, they dont have the #4 but otherwise they got the rest, I feel. Maybe they dont have 2 hitters in their last 3.

Rizwan (wk)
Fakhar
Babar
Iftikhar
Khushdil / Asif
Imad
Shadab
Faheem
Rauf
Shaheen
Naseem / 2nd seamer

Its not great but its something to work with. 7 bowling options are a necessity these days IMO. Australia have the best balance though.

Warner
Finch (c)
Smith
Carey (wk)
Stoinis
Green
Maxwell
Agar
Starc
Cummins / Hazlewood
Zampa

Australia's problem is that none of their blokes except Starc and Zampa are really the best at their jobs. Smith can still get bogged down as far as T20 SRs go and his average is usually not enough to make it up. Wonder what an England XI would look like now that Bairstow is out.

 

[Nintendo]

Rizwan and Fakhar should open with Babar at 3 as your fail safe anchor. Rizwan has to go for his shots more than he does today. And you need someone who can bat long while still having the capability to find boundaries at will at 4. Dunno if any of Khushdil/Asif/Iftikhar are that good.

An ideal T20 side has one anchor-ish opener and a hitter at the top, a failsafe anchor at 3 and a hitter who can bat long at 4. Then your allrounders and then 3 bowlers, at least 2 of whom can hit big shots.

For India, I would go with

Rohit
Pant/Rahul/Ishan (wk)
Virat
SKY
Jaddu
Hardik
DK/Hooda / another hitter
D Chahar
Bhuvi
Bishnoi/Chahal
Bumrah

India does not have the last part but otherwise this side will work. For Pakistan, they dont have the #4 but otherwise they got the rest, I feel. Maybe they dont have 2 hitters in their last 3.

Rizwan (wk)
Fakhar
Babar
Iftikhar
Khushdil / Asif
Imad
Shadab
Faheem
Rauf
Shaheen
Naseem / 2nd seamer

Its not great but its something to work with. 7 bowling options are a necessity these days IMO. Australia have the best balance though.

Warner
Finch (c)
Smith
Carey (wk)
Stoinis
Green
Maxwell
Agar
Starc
Cummins / Hazlewood
Zampa

Australia's problem is that none of their blokes except Starc and Zampa are really the best at their jobs. Smith can still get bogged down as far as T20 SRs go and his average is usually not enough to make it up. Wonder what an England XI would look like now that Bairstow is out.

That team isn't anything like there best T20 11. That's the ODI side from the last Zimbabwe game.

 

[honestbharani]

That team isn't anything like there best T20 11. That's the ODI side from the last Zimbabwe game.

Outside of Tim David, who do you think is missing?

 

[Nintendo]

Outside of Tim David, who do you think is missing?

1.Finch
2.Warner
3.Marsh
4.Maxwell
5.Smith*/Inglis/David
6.Stoinis
7.Wade+
8.Starc/ellis/agar
9.Cummins
10.Zampa
11.haze
*Shouldn't play outside of 3 but most likely will
Green isn't anywhere near the first choice T20 11, Carey is shut in t20I's, both Wade and Inglis are prefered. Haze is the best T20 pacer in the world atm and isn't gonna miss out for a second spinner, we didn't even do that in the UAE. Marsh is completely missing and you've got a ton of players out of position.