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(As an England fan) The Worst Ashes You've Seen
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GuyFromLancs
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Sounds slightly mad, but there were a few highlights in that series. Collingwood at the Gabba, KP and Collingwood at Adelaide, Cook at Perth. I'm sure we took like 7 wickets in a session at Perth too (IIRC), but in the end we were just overwhelmed by a greater team.
This series (apart from Stokes at Perth) has been horrible from bottom to top.
Tangles
International Vice-Captain
As an Aussie this is the worst I've seen from England since the 90s. After Brisbane it's just seemed so easy. Almost makes me want to count all runs scored after Adelaide as massively soft.
Include the last test in England with Kerrigan/Woakes and there's 2 more.
fredfertang
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1989 was probably the worst as we were totally uncompetitive throughout - but the next seven series were pretty grim as well
Burgey
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I have to confess, nearly seven weeks or so since Brisbane and I'm still shocked at what England has produced this series. I didn't think they were all that, but did think them a solid, professional, experienced outfit.
I thought we may win this series on our turf, because of depth in bowling and because we just needed one or two blokes to catch fire with the cue to support Clarke - something more likely to happen at home in a slightly inexperienced side than away.
While England hasn't bowled as well as the home series, tttt the attack hasn't been terrible - they've taken enough early poles to have Australia in strife enough times to win the series. It seems, though, that England as a unit has completely lost the ability to go up a gear with the bat.
There have been a number of times they've been in a decent position, but a combo of good bowling and this strange becalmedness and lack of intent means they don't advance the game. So they'll be 60-70 odd overs into their innings and might be three or four down, but it's 3/140 or 150 odd. Lose a couple of poles and it's all out 200 stuff.
It's a bit like when I started playing golf and wouldn't hit my driver because I couldn't control it. Bloke I was playing with said "if yer gonna be in the ****, you may as well be in the **** 60 yards further along the hole."
Seven majors later and I still thank him
I know we all have a giggle here about #intent, but lack of it has seriously hurt England this series. It's been coming for a while with how they've batted over the past couple of years, but it's really bent them over this tour.
I thought we may win this series on our turf, because of depth in bowling and because we just needed one or two blokes to catch fire with the cue to support Clarke - something more likely to happen at home in a slightly inexperienced side than away.
While England hasn't bowled as well as the home series, tttt the attack hasn't been terrible - they've taken enough early poles to have Australia in strife enough times to win the series. It seems, though, that England as a unit has completely lost the ability to go up a gear with the bat.
There have been a number of times they've been in a decent position, but a combo of good bowling and this strange becalmedness and lack of intent means they don't advance the game. So they'll be 60-70 odd overs into their innings and might be three or four down, but it's 3/140 or 150 odd. Lose a couple of poles and it's all out 200 stuff.
It's a bit like when I started playing golf and wouldn't hit my driver because I couldn't control it. Bloke I was playing with said "if yer gonna be in the ****, you may as well be in the **** 60 yards further along the hole."
Seven majors later and I still thank him
I know we all have a giggle here about #intent, but lack of it has seriously hurt England this series. It's been coming for a while with how they've batted over the past couple of years, but it's really bent them over this tour.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
1989, for precisely the reasons given by Burgey.
There are parallels with the current series - England the holders and probable favourites, an unheralded Aussie team on the back of a really poor period, and a complete an utter thrashing handed out to the Poms.
But somehow this isn't quite as horrific as that. Partly because it happens at night and we don't have to watch. Partly because England is a more professional outfit now and there doesn't seem a realistic prospect of a repeat of the misery years of the 90s. And maybe partly because I have a bit more of a sense of perspective these days. I'm nearly as old as Burgey after all.
There are parallels with the current series - England the holders and probable favourites, an unheralded Aussie team on the back of a really poor period, and a complete an utter thrashing handed out to the Poms.
But somehow this isn't quite as horrific as that. Partly because it happens at night and we don't have to watch. Partly because England is a more professional outfit now and there doesn't seem a realistic prospect of a repeat of the misery years of the 90s. And maybe partly because I have a bit more of a sense of perspective these days. I'm nearly as old as Burgey after all.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Mate Burgey has my phone number it's no different
Athlai
Not Terrible
2006/07 at least had the benefit of Pietersen's shining light beginning to come through.
There just hasn't really been anything similar in this tour. Obviously if England win here on the coattails of a big Stokes century it will help redeem the tour a bit for England but right now only Stuart Broad has had a half decent tour. And Broad being an established player means that the fans can take very little solace in that fact.
There just hasn't really been anything similar in this tour. Obviously if England win here on the coattails of a big Stokes century it will help redeem the tour a bit for England but right now only Stuart Broad has had a half decent tour. And Broad being an established player means that the fans can take very little solace in that fact.
