Arthus Morris vs Hayden vs Trumper vs Simpson

[sayon basak]

Ranking them

Trumper
Hayden
Simpson
Morris.

If I may ask, why is Hayden ahead of Simpson?

 

[sayon basak]

If you did not slander Gooch he would not defend him!

Good point.

Gooch>Rishabh Pant

 

[Johan]

Good point.

Gooch>Rishabh Pant

that's actually true

 

[Johan]

Vijay Merchant's first class average is weird, the rest of his team keeps getting all out before him.

 

[sayon basak]

Vijay Merchant's first class average is weird, the rest of his team keeps getting all out before him.

That just means that he was too good.

 

[Johan]

184* against Ramadhin and Laker while nearing 40, Nice.

 

[Coronis]

Such good opener

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[Johan]

I completely forgot Trumper was a fraud as an opener and a far greater middle order bat, Simpson it is.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I completely forgot Trumper was a fraud as an opener and a far greater middle order bat, Simpson it is.

Shut up, or I will reverse my stance on Root and Hutton.

 

[Johan]

Shut up, or I will reverse my stance on Root and Hutton.

Trumper was a great opening batter

 

[Coronis]

Trumper was a great opening batter

In what universe

 

[sayon basak]

In what universe

Universe with wet wickets.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Such good opener

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Imagine averaging 33 and being your nation’s best opener

 

[sayon basak]

Such good opener

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Imagine averaging 33 and being your nation’s best opener

Pretty sure Hayden wouldn't average 25 on wet wickets of Trumper's time. My guy averaged 33 in NZ, SA and ENG.

 

[Coronis]

Pretty sure Hayden wouldn't average 25 on wet wickets of Trumper's time. My guy averaged 33 in NZ, SA and ENG.

Again all that is impossible to say, you can really only judge players on their performance relative to peers.

Trumper was an okay opener.

He was high quality when he hid down the order for half his career.

 

[Prince EWS]

Pretty sure Hayden wouldn't average 25 on wet wickets of Trumper's time. My guy averaged 33 in NZ, SA and ENG.

Standardised averages (longevity):

Ponsford 52.16 (6.86)
Woodfull 50.51 (8.00)
Lawry 46.91 (10.26)
Simpson 46.88 (9.88)
Morris 45.56 (8.92)
Lyons 44.75 (5.87)
Trumper 44.72 (11.26)
Hayden 44.35 (9.05)
Redpath 43.03 (9.32)

 

[sayon basak]

Standardised averages (longevity):

Ponsford 52.16 (6.86)
Woodfull 50.51 (8.00)
Lawry 46.91 (10.26)
Simpson 46.88 (9.88)
Morris 45.56 (8.92)
Lyons 44.75 (5.87)
Trumper 44.72 (11.26)
Hayden 44.35 (9.05)
Redpath 43.03 (9.32)

No.

 

[subshakerz]

Is there any reason why Morris isnt rated higher here? By all I read he had a great rep.

 

[Line and Length]

Despite the excuses re adverse conditions, it should be remembered that Trumper only averaged 33.0 when opening the batting and 48.8 when batting in the middle order. 5 of his 8 centuries came in the middle order yet some CW members persist with giving him a high rating as an opener. He was an ATG of his era and a legend of the game but, unfortunately, not Australia's greatest opener. In this regard I rate Simpson and Hayden our best two with an honourable mention to Morris who, sadly for him, became known as 'Bedser's Bunny'. I'd also add Ponsford to this poll.

 

[Coronis]

Despite the excuses re adverse conditions, it should be remembered that Trumper only averaged 33.0 when opening the batting and 48.8 when batting in the middle order. 5 of his 8 centuries came in the middle order yet some CW members persist with giving him a high rating as an opener. He was an ATG of his era and a legend of the game but, unfortunately, not Australia's greatest opener. In this regard I rate Simpson and Hayden our best two with an honourable mention to Morris who, sadly for him, became known as 'Deser's Bunny'. I'd also add Ponsford to this poll.

Do you mean Bedser’s?