Arthus Morris vs Hayden vs Trumper vs Simpson

[subshakerz]

Who is Australia's greatest opener?

 

[sayon basak]

Trumper.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Simpson is another candidate

 

[Johan]

@sayon basak 🫂

 

[subshakerz]

Why should we go past Trumpers average?

 

[Johan]

Why should we go past Trumpers average?

He played on some horrid sticky wickets, the average in his matches iirc is 25 or 26, in the matches of someone like Root it's 30 and for someone like Peter May it's 24, so clearly on a very low scoring side of the spectrum which gives his runs a boost.

 

[sayon basak]

He played on some horrid sticky wickets, the average in his matches iirc is 25 or 26, in the matches of someone like Root it's 30 and for someone like Peter May it's 24, so clearly on a very low scoring side of the spectrum which gives his runs a boost.

Pretty sure the other two mentioned in the poll wouldn't average anything above 28/29 in the horrible wet wickets of late 1890's and 1900's.

 

[Johan]

Pretty sure the other two mentioned in the poll wouldn't average anything above 28/29 in the horrible wet wickets of late 1890's and 1900's.

Hayden should average 35+, there'd be plenty of hard wickets to get runs on, Morris prob not

 

[sayon basak]

Hayden should average 35+, there'd be plenty of hard wickets to get runs on, Morris prob not

Hayden couldn't average 35+ in England, New Zealand and South Africa in one of the most flattest eras, don't see him doing that in wet wickets of Trumper's time.

 

[sayon basak]

Trumper>Hayden>Morris for me.

 

[Johan]

Hayden couldn't average 35+ in England, New Zealand and South Africa, don't see him doing that in wet wickets of Trumper's time.

rain isn't that frequent in Aus so on a sunny day It'll just be a hard Fast pitch to make runs on

 

[sayon basak]

rain isn't that frequent in Aus so on a sunny day It'll just be a hard Fast pitch to make runs on

But would it be as flat as the pitches in ENG, SA and NZ that Hayden played in?

 

[Johan]

But would it be as flat as the pitches in ENG, SA and NZ that Hayden played in?

probably on par with current Aus pitches aka good movement + bounce but bereable, if it rains it'd be a disaster tho

 

[sayon basak]

probably on par with current Aus pitches aka good movement + bounce but bereable, if it rains it'd be a disaster tho

Fun fact:-
Hayden's average in NZ, ENG and SA is 33.5, and the aggregate average in matches he played there is 32.2 (which is quite high).

So, Hayden wasn't any better than an average better in those places (tail-enders included).

 

[Johan]

Fun fact:-
Hayden's average in NZ, ENG and SA is 33.5, and the aggregate average in matches he played there is 32.2 (which is quite high).

So, Hayden wasn't any better than an average better in those places (tail-enders included).

what's cook's average in Aus/SA/NZ compared to aggregate

 

[sayon basak]

what's cook's average in Aus/SA/NZ compared to aggregate

Cook's average in AUS/SA/NZ= 39.71
Aggregate average in the matches he played in those countries= 31.25

 

[Prince EWS]

Who is Australia's greatest opener?

Simpson. How on earth isn't he on the poll?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Simpson, Lawry and Ponsford should be poll options

 

[sayon basak]

Simpson. How on earth isn't he on the poll?

Simpson is definitely the first choice in the AUS AT XI as an opener. Averaged 56 as an opener, good leg spinner and an ATG slip fielder.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Simpson is definitely the first choice in the AUS AT XI as an opener. Averaged 56 as an opener, good leg spinner and an ATG slip fielder.

No he isn't. Trumper is the 1st choice. It's close between Simpson and Hayden for me to partner him, my choice is Hayden for LHB and because I have Miller and O'Reilly so his leggies doesn't matters.