An Ageing Indian Side

[honestbharani]

Tendulkar is a known choker, if everyone have attitude like him then the team would even beat SA team in choking!

Choker? Sachin? Is that why he has stood up to be counted everytime India played Pakistan in the WC? Surely, there is nothing to match that pressure.

 

[Dasa]

Choker? Sachin? Is that why he has stood up to be counted everytime India played Pakistan in the WC? Surely, there is nothing to match that pressure.

Why even dignify that with an answer? Remember, the same person who says Tendulkar is a choker also seems to think Pathan is the best fast bowler ever...

 

[honestbharani]

Why even dignify that with an answer? Remember, the same person who says Tendulkar is a choker also seems to think Pathan is the best fast bowler ever...

sorry, my bad.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

Choker? Sachin? Is that why he has stood up to be counted everytime India played Pakistan in the WC? Surely, there is nothing to match that pressure.

A world cup takes place after 4 years, and Sachin played extraordinarily in the last world cup against Pakistan.It is not the case of him being in pressure in each and every world cup game against Pakistan and comming on top.

And why just against Pakistan? what about the finals of the world cup? what about the finals of the Oneday tounaments where he failed again and again??

There are few examples in which Sachin performed well in pressure matches, one being the WC match against Pakistan and other being the final of the OD tour against Australia in Sharjah in which Sachin scored a ton and secured India a win.But those examples don't exceed his failures.

Basically it all about opinions, i tend to agree with Gavaskar that Sachin chokes in big matches.

 

[Anil]

A And why just against Pakistan? what about the finals of the world cup? what about the finals of the Oneday tounaments where he failed again and again??

and what about every single match he has played? every match he has failed in, he has choked....don't you know he is the biggest choker of all time...

 

[Sanz]

Tendulkar is a known choker, if everyone have attitude like him then the team would even beat SA team in choking!

Now I have heard everything.

 

[Sanz]

i tend to agree with Gavaskar.

Actually it is other way round. Gavaskar tend to agree with a legend like yourself.

I also hope to hear from the legend(yourself) about the attitude of greatest cricketer ever 'Dhoni'.

 

[Arjun]

An attitude like Dhoni? Every player should have an attitude like Dravid or Tendulkar...

What is wrong with an attitude like Dhoni? Don't frontliners of all dominating teams possess that?

That is what wins you matches. You can't win matches with an easy, turn-the-other-cheek attitude. Dhoni may look technically way off the mark, but his attitude is a major positive.

 

[Sanz]

What is wrong with an attitude like Dhoni? Don't frontliners of all dominating teams possess that?
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They also score runs against good teams, something Dhoni hasn't done so far.

I guess now he and his fans must have realized that playing in the 3rd tier Ranji level is totally different from playing top class international cricket.

 

[Arjun]

They also score runs against good teams, something Dhoni hasn't done so far.

I guess now he and his fans must have realized that playing in the 3rd tier Ranji level is totally different from playing top class international cricket.

Dhoni attacks, which none of the other Indian batsmen do, even if they play against good teams. If you have any problem with him, pick one batsman who can "score runs against good teams" (that reminds me, are Pakistan and WI minnows?) in the same aggressive manner as he does.

 

[Sanz]

Dhoni attacks, which none of the other Indian batsmen do, even if they play against good teams. If you have any problem with him, pick one batsman who can "score runs against good teams" (that reminds me, are Pakistan and WI minnows?) in the same aggressive manner as he does.

I dont have problem with Dhoni, I think he is an alright player (but needs to improve a lot to become a world class player), But I have problems with fans like you who think of him as savior of Indian cricket.

As for Dhoni Attacks and none of the other Indian batsmen do - Tendulkar, Sehwag dont attack ? Have you been living in a cave of something ?

 

[Arjun]

I dont have problem with Dhoni, I think he is an alright player (but needs to improve a lot to become a world class player), But I have problems with fans like you who think of him as savior of Indian cricket.

As for Dhoni Attacks and none of the other Indian batsmen do - Tendulkar, Sehwag dont attack ? Have you been living in a cave of something ?

READ my posts a little more carefully before poking fun at them. Nowhere have I described him as any 'saviour' of Indian cricket. Rather, the farthest I have gone is "fresh relief in a stale lineup". But is Indian cricket really doomed to the dogs that they shouldn't have any saviour?

If you actually watch Tendulkar and Sehwag these days, you'd get a different picture. Tendulkar scores at an easy pace, while Sehwag is often in such a limbo he doesn't look an attacker, save that final innings in SL. And they're just two attackers out of seven. Get them out of the way and the rest of the batting lineup is WEAK. Is that what you want?

 

[Sanz]

READ my posts a little more carefully before poking fun at them. Nowhere have I described him as any 'saviour' of Indian cricket. Rather, the farthest I have gone is "fresh relief in a stale lineup". But is Indian cricket really doomed to the dogs that they shouldn't have any saviour?

If you actually watch Tendulkar and Sehwag these days, you'd get a different picture. Tendulkar scores at an easy pace, while Sehwag is often in such a limbo he doesn't look an attacker, save that final innings in SL. And they're just two attackers out of seven. Get them out of the way and the rest of the batting lineup is WEAK. Is that what you want?

Dude go and start watching cricket again to Call Dhoni a 'Relief'. The guy is simply medicore and has done nothing to be talked in the same post with Sehwag and SRT. It's players like dhoni who make Indian batting lineup weak. These attackers are worth nothing if they can't last more than 6 quality balls and even Irfan is better than him.

 

[Armadillo]

I also believe Dhoni was a one hit wonder, I don't think he has the technique to be batting at three. Luckily for them they've ended that experiment, for now.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

Actually it is other way round. Gavaskar tend to agree with a legend like yourself.

I also hope to hear from the legend(yourself) about the attitude of greatest cricketer ever 'Dhoni'.

Everyone is entitled to his opinion, one can differ with others but there is no need to pass an asinine sarcastic remark like that

 

[Blaze]

Everyone is entitled to his opinion, one can differ with others but there is no need to pass an asinine sarcastic remark like that

Lol I remember you. You claimed Dhoni was better than Gilchrist. Nice.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

Lol I remember you. You claimed Dhoni was better than Gilchrist. Nice.

I said that he will be as good as Gilchrist.

But anyway that has nothing to do with Tendulkar.Tendulkar is a great batsman and the greatest run accumulator ever (maybe will never be equalled by any other batter ever) but he has few weakness and i identified one.That led to hysteria....

 

[Arjun]

Dude go and start watching cricket again to Call Dhoni a 'Relief'. The guy is simply medicore and has done nothing to be talked in the same post with Sehwag and SRT. It's players like dhoni who make Indian batting lineup weak. These attackers are worth nothing if they can't last more than 6 quality balls and even Irfan is better than him.

The Indians weren't doing far better as a batting side before Dhoni entered. He may not have any technique, but nor do more circumspect batsmen like Yuvraj Singh, Dinesh Mongia and Rohan Gavaskar. That's even worse.

This is what's wrong with cricket in India. Far too much emphasis is lad on technique. Being technically correct is of no use if it serves no purpose.

We're not talking of Dhoni's batting skills here. We're talking of his attitude. Someone with that attitude and even half as much technique as Dravid or Tendulkar (and also a second skill to fall back on) will fit in the Indian team nicely. Is there anything wrong with that?

 

[viktor]

The Indians weren't doing far better as a batting side before Dhoni entered. He may not have any technique, but nor do more circumspect batsmen like Yuvraj Singh, Dinesh Mongia and Rohan Gavaskar. That's even worse.

This is what's wrong with cricket in India. Far too much emphasis is lad on technique. Being technically correct is of no use if it serves no purpose.

We're not talking of Dhoni's batting skills here. We're talking of his attitude. Someone with that attitude and even half as much technique as Dravid or Tendulkar (and also a second skill to fall back on) will fit in the Indian team nicely. Is there anything wrong with that?

no, but if you start comparing this guy with the likes of dravid and tendulkar, ppl are entitled to feel that you live in a cave

 

[Sanz]

The Indians weren't doing far better as a batting side before Dhoni entered. He may not have any technique, but nor do more circumspect batsmen like Yuvraj Singh, Dinesh Mongia and Rohan Gavaskar. That's even worse.

He isn't worse than Dinesh Mongia ? Are you kidding ? Have you even watched Mongia play ? .

This is what's wrong with cricket in India. Far too much emphasis is lad on technique. Being technically correct is of no use if it serves no purpose.

Oh so we should bring PT USHA and Leander Paes to play cricket because they have the attitude ??

We're not talking of Dhoni's batting skills here. We're talking of his attitude. Someone with that attitude and even half as much technique as Dravid or Tendulkar (and also a second skill to fall back on) will fit in the Indian team nicely. Is there anything wrong with that?

Yes. First of all you will need basic skills to play international cricket which Dhoni doesn't have. He is 'can't keep-cant bat' sort of player who will not stay in international cricket for long and sooner or later is going to get kicked out (sooner the better). And by second skill if you meant 'Wicket Keeping' then sadly it is worse than his batting. If you ask me even Dravid can keep better than him.