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Am I the only one here who rates Sunil Gavaskar slightly above Viv Richards in Test?
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BazBall21
International Captain
Did my top 15 at the weekend. Strictly Tests so no Pollock and Headley due to sample size.
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs
Richards
Hutton
Lara
Smith
Hammond
Gavaskar
Chappell
Sutcliffe
Border
Waugh
Ponting.
If I'm writing a top fifty greatest cricketers OAT list, Pollock and Headley will definitely feature. But strictly in test cricket, think there needs to be a minimum sample. George is particularly unfortunate there because of the lack of tests WI played&then the War.
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs
Richards
Hutton
Lara
Smith
Hammond
Gavaskar
Chappell
Sutcliffe
Border
Waugh
Ponting.
If I'm writing a top fifty greatest cricketers OAT list, Pollock and Headley will definitely feature. But strictly in test cricket, think there needs to be a minimum sample. George is particularly unfortunate there because of the lack of tests WI played&then the War.
kyear2
International Coach
You just don't let go of anything do you.
I referenced one decision, as mentioned by Marshall himself, on if my memory serves correct, was a caught behind.
With regards to India, your great savior, Imran himself referenced India as the excuse / reason why he wanted neutral umpires because it was difficult to get fair decisions.
But you're always ready apparently.
kyear2
International Coach
My list only differs by 3 names. Kallis, Pollock and Headley.
Sunil1z
International Regular
Thanks God ICC introduced neutral umpiring . Now I know why Ambrose and Lara have such record against India . Otherwise WI umpire would have made sure that Lara averaged like Sobers and Ambrose like Marshall against India.
BazBall21
International Captain
Yeah with Pollock and Headley it's a sample issue strictly in Tests. Both are unfortunate in that regard and make my top 50 greatest cricketers.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
No Kallis?
BazBall21
International Captain
Don't think he's as good as Waugh and Rick
Gavaskar is the best opener I've seen - his technique and temperament were outstanding.
Whilst I wouldn't put him above Viv, it's not ridiculous to do so.
These arguments about who is better than who always lack that indefinable quality that some players have, something that statistics, however deep you dig, just can't show.
That's what Viv had. It was the way he scored his runs, the mixture of timing and brutality.
He could destroy and demoralise an attack in a way that Sunny never could. He put fear into bowlers that his team mates often benefitted from. He scored the runs when they often mattered most.
I was lucky enough to see alot of Viv, both in the flesh and on TV. The stats don't back it up
but he's the best batsmen I've ever seen.
Whilst I wouldn't put him above Viv, it's not ridiculous to do so.
These arguments about who is better than who always lack that indefinable quality that some players have, something that statistics, however deep you dig, just can't show.
That's what Viv had. It was the way he scored his runs, the mixture of timing and brutality.
He could destroy and demoralise an attack in a way that Sunny never could. He put fear into bowlers that his team mates often benefitted from. He scored the runs when they often mattered most.
I was lucky enough to see alot of Viv, both in the flesh and on TV. The stats don't back it up
but he's the best batsmen I've ever seen.
kyear2
International Coach
I made a throw away comment regarding a single decision. One, that's it.
Sunil1z
International Regular
Coronis
International Coach
Walsh > Marshall > Ambrose imo
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Good post thanks
I find it really hard to find any reason to deviate from the names and the order of this list.
Coronis
International Coach
Richards, Bradman and Lara scored too fast for me.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Pretty good list
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Hacks.
Coronis
International Coach
There is far more to batting than hack and slash. Unfortunate these blokes never learnt that lesson.
shortpitched713
International Captain
You realize, that when @PlayerComparisons and you both post lists that are exactly the same, I'll know what you're doing, right?
So do we concur that Don Bradman was the Zac Crawley of his era?