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All time world ODI XI game

Himannv

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Symonds + Klusener is more than enough to cover 10 overs and that maximises the potential of the batting. Viv and Tendulkar can both bowl a bit as well if necessary.
 

Daemon

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I'd pick Flintoff for this but he made his runs batting 5 and there are a ton of better options to bat there in this side.

Will go with Klusener.
 

stephen

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The thing is we're already bowling heavy with this side. It's one thing going in with a tail of Akram (Ave 15), Garner, Murali, McGrath (all average < 10). But that means bone fide batsmen are needed from 1-7.

I love Kapil, Klusener, Imran as players but the tail is very long if any of them play. I mean this is supposed to be the best bloody side in history. Better to stack the batting and let Viv and Symonds get through the other 10 overs between them. The beauty of Symonds is he could bowl either seam up or spin if conditions demanded it.

Ideally I'd have preferred a bit of extra batting out of the tail (Warne for Murali) which would allow for more confidence in a Klusener/Imran/Kapil pick. But right now if the top order have a 5/8 situation this team is buggered.
 

stephen

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Thre's no way Symonds was good enough to bowl 10 overs in an AT XI.
Symonds could and did in the best ODI side in history.

Don't forget that we have Viv who averaged 5 overs per match as well.

No serious ODI side in history has gone for a 5 front-line bowler approach. The psychological effect of having a longer tail restricts the top order batsmen too much when they need to hit if there is nothing left in the shed. Which isn't as much of a problem in chases but it means a side leaves a lot of runs out there when setting targets.
 

OverratedSanity

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I can see what you mean if you want to strengthen the batting and select symonds over kapil or imran but there's not much reason to pick him over klusener. Klusener is a much better fit for the number 6/7 spot than symonds and is miles ahead as a bowler.
 

stephen

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I can see what you mean if you want to strengthen the batting and select symonds over kapil or imran but there's not much reason to pick him over klusener. Klusener is a much better fit for the number 6/7 spot than symonds and is miles ahead as a bowler.
He was a better bat than Klusener but I can see the logic in your argument. Klusener at 7 could work. I feel we definitely need the best pure bats at 5 and 6 if that's the case (de Villiers and Bevan). I'd still feel more comfortable with Symonds since I don't think you get that much out of the fifth bowler in an ODI since they're going to be bowling mostly in the middle overs trying to contain anyway.
 
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Victor Ian

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Klusener really did have a remarkable run there for a while. I think I might have to go and relive those performances, made all the better because I know that Australia won at the end despite him.
 

vcs

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Those 2 boundaries off Fleming's first 2 balls in the last over were breath-taking. "Tracer Bullet" shots as Ravi Shastri would say. Shame what happened after that..
 

Victor Ian

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Those 2 boundaries off Fleming's first 2 balls in the last over were breath-taking. "Tracer Bullet" shots as Ravi Shastri would say. Shame what happened after that..
agree with all of that except the shame part.

In fact... don't you want someone in a worlds best 11 who can keep their head in a tight situation? Tough call, but maybe Klusener is not your guy for this team. The counterpart for picking guys who perform on the biggest stage is dropping those who don't.

Ignore me. I'm a Symonds fan though and through. Gee Klusener had a serious awesome patch. If he was Australian, I'd agree that it was a real shame
 
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weldone

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It'll be interesting to see how many votes Dhoni will get purely as a no. 6 batsman. I'll surely vote for him.
 

stephen

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It'll be interesting to see how many votes Dhoni will get purely as a no. 6 batsman. I'll surely vote for him.
I feel like Bevan did the same role but better (and he'll be getting my vote). Though I'm sure others would disagree.
 

morgieb

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Dhoni/Jayasuriya should've made it over Gilchrist anyway. Massively overrated in the format.
The way I saw this was that the combination of Gilchrist and (presumably) Bevan was ahead of Dhoni and Jayasuriya, even if Dhoni > Gilchrist as an ODI player. Don't think Jaya was better than Gilchrist for example.
 

Himannv

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I can see some merits of giving the gloves to de Villiers. He's not the best keeper in the world or anything, but he's good enough with the gloves to do the job and his batting record is unaffected by whether he's keeping wicket or not. It allows you to play Jayasuriya and ensure the bowling has enough depth and variety. Plenty of hitting power as well. I'm dropping Bevan who is a cool head in a crisis, but I think ABdV offers too much with the bat to keep him out. Symonds can bowl both spin and pace depending on the conditions and he can be pretty devastating with the bat, so I think his selection is also justified.

01. Sachin Tendulkar
02. Sanath Jayasuriya
03. Virat Kohli
04. Viv Richards
05. Andrew Symonds
06. AB de Villiers+
07. Lance Klusener
08. Wasim Akram
09. Joel Garner
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
 

Gob

International Coach
Dhoni/Jayasuriya should've made it over Gilchrist anyway. Massively overrated in the format.
Dunno how Sanath is a better option to Gilchrist unless we give huge importance to bowling few overs of darts (which can be useful but these AT teams always have a genuine all rounder who can do ten overs easy) or shooting ameture pornography.

Flintoff
 

GuyFromLancs

State Vice-Captain
Dunno how Sanath is a better option to Gilchrist unless we give huge importance to bowling few overs of darts (which can be useful but these AT teams always have a genuine all rounder who can do ten overs easy) or shooting ameture pornography.

Flintoff
... Gilchrist doesn't make it as a batsman alone though
 

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