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All-time Australia XIs - A re-run

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Colin McDonald - 4
Joe Darling - 1
Chris Rogers - 1
Kepler Wessels - 1

Graham Yallop - 3
Peter Burge - 3

Shane Watson - 1

Shane Watson - 4
Colin McCool - 3
Greg Mathews - 3

Charles Kelleway - 2
Peter Siddle - 1
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
AustraliaAustralia AAustralia BAustralia C
1. RB Simpson ⬆1. VT Trumper ⬇1. AR Morris ⬇1. JL Langer
2. ML Hayden2. WM Lawry ⬆2. WH Ponsford2. SG Barnes ⬆
3. DG Bradman *3. RT Ponting3. C Hill3. CG Macartney
4. SPD Smith ⬆4. RN Harvey4. SJ McCabe4. AL Hassett *
5. GS Chappell5. AR Border * ⬇5. MJ Clarke5. MEK Hussey
6. KR Miller6. SR Waugh6. KD Walters6. MA Noble
7. AC Gilchrist +7. IA Healy +7. RW Marsh +7. JM Gregory ⬆
8. SK Warne8. AK Davidson8. RB Benaud * ⬆8. WAS Oldfield +
9. WJ O'Reilly ⬆9. RR Lindwall ⬇9. JN Gillespie ⬇9. CBT Turner ⬇
10. DK Lillee10. PJ Cummins ⬆*1310. WA Johnston ⬆10. NM Lyon ⬆ ⬆ ⬆
11. GD McGrath11. CV Grimmett ⬆11. FR Spofforth ⬇11. JR Hazlewood ⬆⬆⬆
Australia DAustralia EAustralia FAustralia G
1. WM Woodfull ⬇1. MA Taylor *1. MJ Slater1. SM Katich
2. UT Khawaja ⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆2. DA Warner ⬇2. W Bardsley ⬇2. WA Brown
3. DC Boon ⬆3. M Labuschagne ✴3. RM Cowper3. A Jackson ⬇
4. IM Chappell *4. NCL O'Neill4. IR Redpath4. KJ Hughes *
5. ME Waugh5. DR Martyn ⬇5. DM Jones ⬇5. AF Kippax ⬆⬆
6. WW Armstrong6. J Ryder6. DS Lehmann6. A Symonds ⬆⬆⬆
7. BJ Haddin + ⬆⬆7. D Tallon + ⬇7. JM Blackham * + ⬇7. Alex Carey + ✴
8. H Trumble8. MA Starc ⬆⬆8. B Lee8. George Giffen ⬇ ⬇
9. MG Johnson ⬇ ⬇9. RJ Harris ⬇⬇9. AA Mailey ⬆⬆9. MG Hughes ⬇⬇
10. CJ McDermott10. SCG MacGill10. TM Alderman ⬇⬇10. ERH Toshack ⬆⬆⬆⬆
11. GD McKenzie ⬇11. JR Thomson ⬇⬇⬇11. BA Reid ⬇11. H Ironmonger
Australia H
1. Herbie Collins ⬇
2. Colin McDonald
3.
4. Bill Murdoch⬇
5. Adam Voges
6. Shane Watson ⬇ ⬇
7.
8.Wally Grout+⬇
9. Stuart Clark ⬆⬆
10. Ashley Mallett⬆⬆⬆
11. John J Ferris ⬇⬇
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Vote for one of:

Graham Yallop or Peter Burge
Greg Mathews or Colin McCool

Give the batting order (optional. Can give whole, just fragments or even might mention the batting position of a single player).
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
If Watson is in the middle order, shouldn't he be at 3?

Watson averaged 38 at 3 (which was his 2nd most successful position behind 1).

He averaged 26 at 6.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
If Watson is in the middle order, shouldn't he be at 3?

Watson averaged 38 at 3 (which was his 2nd most successful position behind 1).

He averaged 26 at 6.
If you want Watson at 3, say so. Will do whatever the majority says.
While at it, might as well give the middle-order order
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Burge
Matthews
  • Watson at 3; Murdoch at 4; Burge at 5; Voges at 6; Matthews at 7; Ferris at 8 (had an FC century)
  • if Yallop is selected he should bat #3 with Murdoch at #4 (#3 in Murdoch's time is equivalent to #4 today)
 

Flametree

International 12th Man
Don't understand the options. You've already got Mallett, and Collins bowled decent left-arm spin didn't he? Surely the number 7 should be another seamer, any of Gilmour, Archer, Green, Reiffel, or Pattinson maybe.

The order in which positions are filled affects the final side. If you hadn't already selected a spinner, I'd have thought a Matthews-McCool combo at 6+7 would be a natural fit when you've got a non-batting keeper like Grout, allowing you to play three seam bowlers without worrying about their batting ability.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Don't understand the options. You've already got Mallett, and Collins bowled decent left-arm spin didn't he? Surely the number 7 should be another seamer, any of Gilmour, Archer, Green, Reiffel, or Pattinson maybe.

The order in which positions are filled affects the final side. If you hadn't already selected a spinner, I'd have thought a Matthews-McCool combo at 6+7 would be a natural fit when you've got a non-batting keeper like Grout, allowing you to play three seam bowlers without worrying about their batting ability.
Matthews and McCool got 3 votes each, so this round is a tie breaker. Personally would had gone for Kelleway.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Need one more vote to tie break between Yallop and Burge. If no one votes today, will simply remove my vote and make the decision.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Burge - 3
Yallop - 3

McCool - 4
Mathews - 2

Burge goes ahead by removing my vote. As it stands, the majority consensus was for Watson to bat 3 given Burge gets selected. Hence, putting him there now. If someone have any problems with it, they can raise so.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
AustraliaAustralia AAustralia BAustralia C
1. RB Simpson ⬆1. VT Trumper ⬇1. AR Morris ⬇1. JL Langer
2. ML Hayden2. WM Lawry ⬆2. WH Ponsford2. SG Barnes ⬆
3. DG Bradman *3. RT Ponting3. C Hill3. CG Macartney
4. SPD Smith ⬆4. RN Harvey4. SJ McCabe4. AL Hassett *
5. GS Chappell5. AR Border * ⬇5. MJ Clarke5. MEK Hussey
6. KR Miller6. SR Waugh6. KD Walters6. MA Noble
7. AC Gilchrist +7. IA Healy +7. RW Marsh +7. JM Gregory ⬆
8. SK Warne8. AK Davidson8. RB Benaud * ⬆8. WAS Oldfield +
9. WJ O'Reilly ⬆9. RR Lindwall ⬇9. JN Gillespie ⬇9. CBT Turner ⬇
10. DK Lillee10. PJ Cummins ⬆*1310. WA Johnston ⬆10. NM Lyon ⬆ ⬆ ⬆
11. GD McGrath11. CV Grimmett ⬆11. FR Spofforth ⬇11. JR Hazlewood ⬆⬆⬆
Australia DAustralia EAustralia FAustralia G
1. WM Woodfull ⬇1. MA Taylor *1. MJ Slater1. SM Katich
2. UT Khawaja ⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆2. DA Warner ⬇2. W Bardsley ⬇2. WA Brown
3. DC Boon ⬆3. M Labuschagne ✴3. RM Cowper3. A Jackson ⬇
4. IM Chappell *4. NCL O'Neill4. IR Redpath4. KJ Hughes *
5. ME Waugh5. DR Martyn ⬇5. DM Jones ⬇5. AF Kippax ⬆⬆
6. WW Armstrong6. J Ryder6. DS Lehmann6. A Symonds ⬆⬆⬆
7. BJ Haddin + ⬆⬆7. D Tallon + ⬇7. JM Blackham * + ⬇7. Alex Carey + ✴
8. H Trumble8. MA Starc ⬆⬆8. B Lee8. George Giffen ⬇ ⬇
9. MG Johnson ⬇ ⬇9. RJ Harris ⬇⬇9. AA Mailey ⬆⬆9. MG Hughes ⬇⬇
10. CJ McDermott10. SCG MacGill10. TM Alderman ⬇⬇10. ERH Toshack ⬆⬆⬆⬆
11. GD McKenzie ⬇11. JR Thomson ⬇⬇⬇11. BA Reid ⬇11. H Ironmonger
Australia H
1. HL Collins ⬇
2. CC McDonald
3. SR Watson⬇ ⬇
4. WL Murdoch⬇
5. PJP Burge
6. AC Voges
7. CL McCool ⬆
8. ATW Grout+⬇
9. JJ Ferris ⬇⬇
10. AA Mallett⬆⬆⬆
11. SR Clark ⬆⬆
 
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capt_Luffy

International Captain
Now please vote for:
A) Captain of Australia H
B) An opener for Australia I
C) Two opening bowlers for Australia I
D) Should we end it at Australia I or continue for two more
 

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