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A cheat is a cheat

Socerer 01

International Captain
Australians will believe a conspiracy between the ICC, the umpires and ECB to secretly plant a batch of balls from 5 years ago for use against Australia but won’t believe Smith, Starc, Haze and Cummins knew about the tampering.
insert men will do x rather than seek therapy meme
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Australians will believe a conspiracy between the ICC, the umpires and ECB to secretly plant a batch of balls from 5 years ago for use against Australia but won’t believe Smith, Starc, Haze and Cummins knew about the tampering.
I think this can be implied although we can't be 100% certain. But practically what is the board supposed to do? We can even go as far as saying that everyone involved in the team knew about what was going on, but they can't just handover bans to all of them.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I love this part of the story....

"Chasing down 384 for an epic win, Australia gave themselves every chance of rewriting the history books when David Warner and Usman Khawaja finished the penultimate day 0-135 on what looked like a docile wicket with little sideways movement in the air and off the pitch. And they had little trouble getting to that position, until a ball that hit Usman Khawaja on the head near the close of the fourth day’s play changed the complexion of the entire match."

If it was so ****ing docile, maybe Usman should've used his bat rather than his head!

Australians will believe a conspiracy between the ICC, the umpires and ECB to secretly plant a batch of balls from 5 years ago for use against Australia but won’t believe Smith, Starc, Haze and Cummins knew about the tampering.
Broad knew...

Starc has questions to answer.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
And then there's this beauty too:

“I got my back up, big time, and I couldn’t go too hard there and then — it would have looked like the whinging Aussies sort of thing,” Ponting said.

Yeah, best save it for 3 months later Ricky......and then 3 months after that.......and then another 3 months....and then before you know it you're up to 2019 World Cup levels of whinging!!
 

Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
And then there's this beauty too:

“I got my back up, big time, and I couldn’t go too hard there and then — it would have looked like the whinging Aussies sort of thing,” Ponting said.

Yeah, best save it for 3 months later Ricky......and then 3 months after that.......and then another 3 months....and then before you know it you're up to 2019 World Cup levels of whinging!!
We've been here before too. Ponting constantly moaning about how unfair things are in the Ashes makes him look like a right Pratt.
 

the big bambino

International Captain
Australians will believe a conspiracy between the ICC, the umpires and ECB to secretly plant a batch of balls from 5 years ago for use against Australia but won’t believe Smith, Starc, Haze and Cummins knew about the tampering.
So the reverse of you then? The incredible thing is that people are so skeptical about some claims and yet conspiratorial about others.

Right up until now no one has anything on Cummins at sandpaper gate and not even that flimsy evidence for any match before or after it. Even if there was ball tampering that Cummins knew about it still isn't his responsibility. Any more than it was for the rest of the Saffers when Du Plessis was busted or that the Indian players are as big a pack of liars as SRT in the teri maki test.
 

Daemon

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So the reverse of you then? The incredible thing is that people are so skeptical about some claims and yet conspiratorial about others.

Right up until now no one has anything on Cummins at sandpaper gate and not even that flimsy evidence for any match before or after it. Even if there was ball tampering that Cummins knew about it still isn't his responsibility. Any more than it was for the rest of the Saffers when Du Plessis was busted or that the Indian players are as big a pack of liars as SRT in the teri maki test.
:laugh:
 

TheJediBrah

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I think this can be implied although we can't be 100% certain. But practically what is the board supposed to do? We can even go as far as saying that everyone involved in the team knew about what was going on, but they can't just handover bans to all of them.
lmao dude they literally banned their 2 best players for 12 months, both who technically weren't even directly involved, when every other time this has happened in the history of cricket it's been like a 1 match ban.

It was the most absurdly excessive punishment in the history of cricket*, handed out by their own board, and here you are implying that the same board was somehow protecting players? wow




*might not actually be the case
 

Daemon

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Whether they knew and the punishment are two separate things. That the punishment was excessive is not in question.

The probability that the others knew is what’s been contested. As wahhhmbino says though it doesn’t actually matter from a punishment perspective (if CA applied the same rules as everyone else).

Anyways I’ll stop here as some people are far too sensitive to a bit of ribbing.
 

TheJediBrah

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Whether they knew and the punishment are two separate things. That the punishment was excessive is not in question.

The probability that the others knew is what’s been contested. As wahhhmbino says though it doesn’t actually matter from a punishment perspective (if CA applied the same rules as everyone else).

Anyways I’ll stop here as some people are far too sensitive to a bit of ribbing.
The idea that a board would, or should, "hand over a ban to everyone" is beyond ridiculous though, when historically boards will fight the ICC to minimise punishment. In noted examples even make threats.

It was just such an oblivious post I feel like I had to address it
 

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