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A cheat is a cheat
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SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Good behavior?
GoodAreasShane
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You sir have no idea what you are talking about. Jog on.
Starfighter
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Come back when you have an informed opinion.
Maximas
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I'm sure I remember a few people calling for them at the height of the saga, could be wrong though
jimmy101
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You're probably right actually.
You just want Davey Boy to get into politics ASAP.
GoodAreasShane
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Pretty sure I remember Michael Vaughan suggesting lifetime bans at least for Warner, which is nauseatingly hypocritical considering his own cheating in the 2005 Ashes. Real stones and glass houses stuff.
Second Spitter
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Ball tampering is not heinous offense, especially in a sport where there is a grey area. In baseball, where there is no grey area, the worst you get is an ejection plus a game or two suspension.
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stephen
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Bringing sandpaper onto the field is about as far from the grey area as you can possibly get.
The whole Smith thing is overblown though. It was more a failure of his ability to control Warner than anything else. And it's perfectly understandable that he wanted to try and protect his mate and the most junior member of the team by claiming collective responsibility for the events. After all the "look after your team mates" culture is instilled from a very young age in Australian cricket, and was well and truly reinforced by the CA/ACA battles of 2017.
Smith had seen ball tamperers get away with a slap on the wrist for years and could reasonably have assumed that they'd suffer no worse. He only had to look at the way Faf was treated for tampering (twice) - he had a sympathetic home public, the backing of his team and the board and got nothing more than a slap on the wrist by the ICC
Smith simply didn't understand that Australians viewed what Bancroft did as blatant cheating and didn't tolerate cheating in a game we hold as part of the national identity.
This is a failure of Cricket Australia's management of the cricketing culture in the elite men's team more than anything else. Heads should roll within CA. Smith has paid enough of a personal penalty for his role in the events.
Warner I have less sympathy for. Everywhere he goes he acts like a spoilt brat, a bully and his actions have destroyed many other people's careers in Australian cricket. He's far worse for the Australian cricket team than Maxwell ever was.
The whole Smith thing is overblown though. It was more a failure of his ability to control Warner than anything else. And it's perfectly understandable that he wanted to try and protect his mate and the most junior member of the team by claiming collective responsibility for the events. After all the "look after your team mates" culture is instilled from a very young age in Australian cricket, and was well and truly reinforced by the CA/ACA battles of 2017.
Smith had seen ball tamperers get away with a slap on the wrist for years and could reasonably have assumed that they'd suffer no worse. He only had to look at the way Faf was treated for tampering (twice) - he had a sympathetic home public, the backing of his team and the board and got nothing more than a slap on the wrist by the ICC
Smith simply didn't understand that Australians viewed what Bancroft did as blatant cheating and didn't tolerate cheating in a game we hold as part of the national identity.
This is a failure of Cricket Australia's management of the cricketing culture in the elite men's team more than anything else. Heads should roll within CA. Smith has paid enough of a personal penalty for his role in the events.
Warner I have less sympathy for. Everywhere he goes he acts like a spoilt brat, a bully and his actions have destroyed many other people's careers in Australian cricket. He's far worse for the Australian cricket team than Maxwell ever was.
TheJediBrah
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Sure, why don't we give life prison sentences to a few people who get speeding tickets while the rest get small fines while we're at it
Starfighter
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The Victorian government might take you up on that.
Second Spitter
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This is a complete myth. Australian athletes have been routinely involved in more perverse forms of cheating without the level of hysteria attached to what those three Test players faced.
A fair and equitable justice system is one where the penalties are consistent.
The line between sandpaper and breath mints is as grey as a English winter's day.
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Maximas
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Even more hilarious now that he's calling for a reduction in the player bans
Second Spitter
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And the principles are somehow different?
GoodAreasShane
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Yeah I saw that, he's certainly changed his tune. Reeks of attention seeking to me