subshakerz
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How likely is Cummins to end as an ATG top 10 pacer?
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Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Even if he has a great Ashes in Eng and a great series in India before career end?
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Pretty likely for me
kyear2
International Coach
Top 10?
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose
Imran
Lillee
Donald
Garner
Lindwall
Holding
Bumrah
Trueman
Garner
Davidson
Cummins
Pollock
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Let's leave aside Bumrah for now.
Why cant Cummins make it past Donald, Garner and Lindwall?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah I think he's probably already there.
TheJediBrah
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Prince EWS
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You have Garner twice. I guess one of them is ignoring his batting?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Don't think he has accomplished enough to be ahead of Donald or even Trueman.
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When you exceed 12 inches you get named twice
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Way ahead of Trueman for me but I do rate Trueman lower than most.
My takes on Australian pitches in the 2010s lead me to rate Smith lower than practically everyone but also Cummins quite a bit higher.
I'm also not a Lillee fan which opens up a spot most people have locked in.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Don't think Cummins is ahead of Lillee.
Prince EWS
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Cummins > Hoggard > Lillee.
CricAddict
International Coach
Main competition for Cummins to enter top ten is Bumrah. It can be only one of them in the top ten for me.
ankitj
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Donald is a high ****ing bar. We talk about him here like he is some mythical low sample size 19th century bowler.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Um both can make it easily.
Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Steyn, Imran, Ambrose, Akram Lillee all stay.
Bumrah and Cummins fit it to make 10.
Donald, Lindwall, Garner, Trueman are eased out of consideration.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Donald is a high bar but based on his trajectory, Cummins just needs quality series in England and India or SL to make a case to be better than him.
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cummins had ordinary year or so. Needs a bit of revival. I wouldn't easily put him past Donald. Maybe it's my nostalgia. Compare Donald's strike rate with Akram, Ambrose and McGrath. He was a very potent and incisive bowler.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Donald underperformed against Australia which sort of holds him back for me. Cummins fixing his Eng record and showing some form in the SC would be enough to give him a nod.