3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

[wpdavid]

Root's captaincy deserves some credit for the Paine review, and he probably got his bowling choices correct enough. Not sure about the fields though. Is third man really such a bad option when the balls moving as much as it was yesterday? And Woakes & Stokes surely needed more protection when they were struggling to get into the game. Remains to be seen how much those extra runs will hurt England.

 

[Burgey]

Not saying they are ****ed but we should be able to get 300+ on the board which is a huge lead in the circumstances. Also the movement becomes far less when the sun is out at Headingley. Don't let facts get in the way of your boozed up fog though.

Mate if they get 300 it’s immense

 

[morgieb]

179 is the type of score you get when all of the above is true and conditions are great for bowling. The edges of Rory Burns's bat alone could get them halfway there.

I'd expect something more like the 250 they got at Lord's.

Yeah as long as today is sunny I think Australia's going to be pretty disappointed if they hope to get a first innings lead. Keep it under 50-75 though and we're still well and truly in it.

 

[Spark]

179 is the type of score you get when all of the above is true and conditions are great for bowling. The edges of Rory Burns's bat alone could get them halfway there.

I'd expect something more like the 250 they got at Lord's.

As would I, but honestly an 80 run deficit in the first innings is not a catastrophic position. Not ideal ofc, but I'd take it.

 

[GIMH]

Root's captaincy deserves some credit for the Paine review, and he probably got his bowling choices correct enough. Not sure about the fields though. Is third man really such a bad option when the balls moving as much as it was yesterday? And Woakes & Stokes surely needed more protection when they were struggling to get into the game. Remains to be seen how much those extra runs will hurt England.

To repeat my post from yesterday though, I don't think the extra runs can simply be looked at just in the context of the 70 or whatever it was.

The fact is, if we'd not dithered for that hour, we bat for an hour last night, and those conditions, fading light & Jason Roy, we start today 40/5.

Starting the day in better conditions with all wickets intact is probably worth more than 70 - but we'll see how we go today, I guess.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I have a bad feeling we're not going to see a tumble of wickets today. A few English bats seemed to find a little bit of form in their last innings, but I am hoping they lose it just as quickly. Fozzie Bear could do anything, but a brain fade in single figures is still the most likely occurrence.

 

[stephen]

Yeah if England make 220 in the first innings I'd suggest that the game is pretty even. 100 and they're well in front. Anything less and Australia have noses in front.

I feel like this game will come down to Australia's second innings. It'll likely decide the game. Anything less than a 150 lead isn't defensible. Anything over 250 puts it out of England's reach IMO.

It's a game of margins.

 

[Spikey]

Root's captaincy deserves some credit for the Paine review

yeah he might have scored 4 more runs

 

[Uppercut]

As would I, but honestly an 80 run deficit in the first innings is not a catastrophic position. Not ideal ofc, but I'd take it.

Yeah would set up the game very nicely.

I think over 250 is more likely than under 250, though. They've gone past it in 3 of their 4 innings so far. All Burgey's talking shite for the craic has kind of set a baseline of OTT pessimism about England's batting.

 

[Burgey]

The role of pure, blind luck in cricket is very underrated. Sometimes all the balls miss the edge, or all the edges go between the slip fielders, a clueless looking batsman somehow flukes his way to 30 and then starts playing much better.

Warner yesterday an example of this

 

[Flem274*]

The role of pure, blind luck in cricket is very underrated. Sometimes all the balls miss the edge, or all the edges go between the slip fielders, a clueless looking batsman somehow flukes his way to 30 and then starts playing much better.

indeed. england the entire wc final for example.

 

[Pothas]

Yeah would set up the game very nicely.

I think over 250 is more likely than under 250, though. They've gone past it in 3 of their 4 innings so far. All Burgey's talking shite for the craic has kind of set a baseline of OTT pessimism about England's batting.

Generally in England they seem to manage around 300 but then they do obviously chuck in some very low scores. Yesterday I don't think they would have made 150.

 

[Second Spitter]

The role of pure, blind luck in cricket is very underrated. Sometimes all the balls miss the edge, or all the edges go between the slip fielders, a clueless looking batsman somehow flukes his way to 30 and then starts playing much better.

The corollary being "Cricket rewards false shots" ===> this is the thing baseball elitism mocks about cricket the most.

My reply is usually "The reward of false shots is counterbalanced by getting out cheaply via foul tips (edges) "

 

[Lillian Thomson]

indeed. england the entire wc final for example.

I already have a petition ready if Australia win by 4 runs.

 

[social]

Much easier batting conditions this morning

 

[Flem274*]

well the poms are right about one thing - it's sunny and looks good for batting

 

[Uppercut]

Should Cummins be taking the new ball? It might not swing for long so the other two might not be as effective first change.

 

[Pothas]

The role of pure, blind luck in cricket is very underrated. Sometimes all the balls miss the edge, or all the edges go between the slip fielders, a clueless looking batsman somehow flukes his way to 30 and then starts playing much better.

Huge part of all sport, it is absolutely essential to it being any good as well. Cricket has less of it than Football.

 

[wpdavid]

To repeat my post from yesterday though, I don't think the extra runs can simply be looked at just in the context of the 70 or whatever it was.

The fact is, if we'd not dithered for that hour, we bat for an hour last night, and those conditions, fading light & Jason Roy, we start today 40/5.

Starting the day in better conditions with all wickets intact is probably worth more than 70 - but we'll see how we go today, I guess.

Yes, but my point was about setting a field which conceded fewer runs rather than taking 10 wickets more quickly. I totally take your point that not bowling them out with an hour and a half to play yesterday may be a blessing.

 

[Neptune]

Jason Roy already a walking wicket...