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3 Nations Draft

ataraxia

International Coach
John Waite

@AndyZaltzHair
Macartney > Hussey so Hussey was, in fact, not the least bad option available.
I thought at first he's playing Hussey at 4/5 so maybe more optimal for him context wise. Though if Hill was his first choice..
Macartney's always an interesting one. He's been forgotten in the batting all-rounder stakes in drafts in the last couple of years, and even beforehand stood out to me as a gun but a departure from the traditional draft canon (even though he was picked rather frequently) -- you don't really see Charlie even being name-dropped in CC all too often. How would you guys rate him vis-a-vis Armstrong?

I scanned a few recent general drafts and found Hussey was picked relatively early compared to other candidates, so that's my justification for picking him. When I pick Hill I tend to play him at #5, though looking at his record he definitely was a #3 (although perhaps not a draft-quality one).
 

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
John Waite

@AndyZaltzHair


Macartney's always an interesting one. He's been forgotten in the batting all-rounder stakes in drafts in the last couple of years, and even beforehand stood out to me as a gun but a departure from the traditional draft canon (even though he was picked rather frequently) -- you don't really see Charlie even being name-dropped in CC all too often. How would you guys rate him vis-a-vis Armstrong?

I scanned a few recent general drafts and found Hussey was picked relatively early compared to other candidates, so that's my justification for picking him. When I pick Hill I tend to play him at #5, though looking at his record he definitely was a #3 (although perhaps not a draft-quality one).
Personally I think Clem is as suitable a 3 as Trumper is an opener. Maybe even moreso as Trumper has Hobbs as a direct opening peer asking a few questions of his record

As for Macartney, all things considered I find it really hard to split him and McCabe as next best Aussie bat after the Don in the inter war period. His record in the 20s after he became more of a specialist number 3 is really impressive
 

kingkallis

International Coach
Martin Crowe

CricZo XI

Graham Gooch /
Arthur Morris /
Kane Williamson /
Martin Crowe /
Kevin Pietersen /
Andrew Flintoff / o (3)
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Richard Hadlee o / (1)
Ray Lindwall o / (2)
Bill O'Reilly o (4)
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Any chance of a list of players already selected. Country by country would be good.
Australia:
  • Victor Trumper
  • Bob Simpson
  • Matthew Hayden
  • Bill Lawry
  • Arthur Morris
  • Bill Ponsford
  • Bill Woodfull
  • Steve Smith
  • Greg Chappell
  • Allan Border
  • Steve Waugh
  • Ricky Ponting
  • Neil Harvey
  • Clem Hill
  • Stan McCabe
  • Michael Clarke
  • Michael Hussey
  • Ian Chappell
  • Charlie MaCartney
  • Richie Benaud
  • Monty Noble
  • Keith Miller
  • Jack Gregory
  • Adam Gilchrist
  • Glenn McGrath
  • Dennis Lillee
  • Ray Lindwall
  • Allan Davidson
  • Pat Cummins
  • Jason Gillespie
  • Josh Hazlewood
  • Mitchell Johnson
  • Jeff Thomson
  • Shane Warne
  • Bill O'Reilly
  • Clarrie Grimmett
  • Stuart MacGill
England:
  • W G Grace
  • Jack Hobbs
  • Len Hutton
  • Herbert Sutcliffe
  • Geoff Boycott
  • Alaistar Cook
  • Graham Gooch
  • Wally Hammond
  • K S Ranjitsinhji
  • Ken Barrington
  • Joe Root
  • Denis Compton
  • Peter May
  • Kevin Pietersen
  • Colin Cowdrey
  • Ted Dexter
  • Eddie Paynter
  • Wilfred Rhodes
  • Ian Botham
  • Frank Woolley
  • Tony Greig
  • Ben Stokes
  • Maurice Tate
  • Andrew Flintoff
  • Les Ames
  • Alan Knott
  • Sydney Barnes
  • Fred Trueman
  • James Anderson
  • Alec Bedser
  • Brian Statham
  • Bob Willis
  • John Snow
  • Harold Larwood
  • Frank Tyson
  • Jim Laker
  • Hedley Verity
  • Graeme Swann
West Indies:

  • Gordon Greenidge
  • Conrad Hunte
  • Brian Lara
  • Viv Richards
  • George Headley
  • Everton Weekes
  • Clyde Walcott
  • Frank Worrell
  • Rohan Kanhai
  • Clive Lloyd
  • Shivnarine Chanderpaul
  • Garry Sobers
  • Jeff Dujon
  • Malcolm Marshall
  • Curtly Ambrose
  • Joel Garner
  • Michael Holding
  • Courtney Walsh
  • Andy Roberts
  • Ian Bishop
  • Wes Hall
  • Colin Croft
  • Lance Gibbs

South Africa:

  • Barry Richards
  • Graeme Smith
  • Bruce Mitchell
  • Gary Kirsten
  • Graeme Pollock
  • A B de Villiers
  • Dudley Nourse
  • Hashim Amla
  • Aubrey Faulkner
  • Jacques Kallis
  • Mike Procter
  • Shaun Pollock
  • Eddie Barlow
  • Trevor Goddard
  • John Waite
  • Dale Steyn
  • Allan Donald
  • Kagiso Rabada
  • Vernon Philander
  • Neil Adcock
  • Peter Pollock
  • Hugh Tayfield
India:
  • Sunil Gavaskar
  • Virendra Sehwag
  • Sachin Tendulkar
  • Rahul Dravid
  • Virat Kohli
  • V V S Laxman
  • Ravichandran Ashwin
  • Ravindra Jadeja
  • Vinoo Mankad
  • Kapil Dev
  • Rishabh Pant
  • Jasprit Bumrah
  • Anil Kumble
Pakistan:
  • Javed Miandad
  • Younis Khan
  • Inzamam-ul-Haq
  • Mushtaq Mohammad
  • Imran Khan
  • Mohammad Rizwan
  • Wasim Akram
  • Waqar Younis
  • Shoaib Akhtar
  • Saqlain Mushtaq
New Zealand:

  • Kane Williamson
  • Martin Crowe
  • Richard Hadlee
Sri Lanka:

  • Kumar Sangakkara
  • Muttiah Muralitharan
Zimbabwe:
  • Andy Flower
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Australia:
  • Victor Trumper
  • Bob Simpson
  • Matthew Hayden
  • Bill Lawry
  • Arthur Morris
  • Bill Ponsford
  • Steve Smith
  • Greg Chappell
  • Allan Border
  • Steve Waugh
  • Ricky Ponting
  • Neil Harvey
  • Clem Hill
  • Stan McCabe
  • Michael Clarke
  • Michael Hussey
  • Ian Chappell
  • Charlie MaCartney
  • Richie Benaud
  • Monty Noble
  • Keith Miller
  • Adam Gilchrist
  • Glenn McGrath
  • Dennis Lillee
  • Ray Lindwall
  • Allan Davidson
  • Pat Cummins
  • Jason Gillespie
  • Josh Hazlewood
  • Mitchell Johnson
  • Jeff Thomson
  • Shane Warne
  • Bill O'Reilly
  • Clarrie Grimmett
  • Stuart MacGill
England:
  • W G Grace
  • Jack Hobbs
  • Len Hutton
  • Herbert Sutcliffe
  • Geoff Boycott
  • Alaistar Cook
  • Graham Gooch
  • Wally Hammond
  • K S Ranjitsinhji
  • Ken Barrington
  • Joe Root
  • Denis Compton
  • Peter May
  • Kevin Pietersen
  • Colin Cowdrey
  • Ted Dexter
  • Wilfred Rhodes
  • Ian Botham
  • Tony Greig
  • Ben Stokes
  • Maurice Tate
  • Andrew Flintoff
  • Les Ames
  • Alan Knott
  • Sydney Barnes
  • Fred Trueman
  • James Anderson
  • Alec Bedser
  • Brian Statham
  • Bob Willis
  • John Snow
  • Harold Larwood
  • Frank Tyson
  • Jim Laker
  • Hedley Verity
West Indies:

  • Gordon Greenidge
  • Conrad Hunte
  • Brian Lara
  • Viv Richards
  • George Headley
  • Everton Weekes
  • Clyde Walcott
  • Frank Worrell
  • Rohan Kanhai
  • Clive Lloyd
  • Shivnarine Chanderpaul
  • Garry Sobers
  • Jeff Dujon
  • Malcolm Marshall
  • Curtly Ambrose
  • Joel Garner
  • Michael Holding
  • Courtney Walsh
  • Andy Roberts
  • Ian Bishop
  • Wes Hall
  • Colin Croft
  • Lance Gibbs
  • South Africa:
  • Barry Richards
  • Graeme Smith
  • Bruce Mitchell
  • Gary Kirsten
  • Graeme Pollock
  • A B de Villiers
  • Dudley Nourse
  • Hashim Amla
  • Aubrey Faulkner
  • Jacques Kallis
  • Mike Procter
  • Shaun Pollock
  • Trevor Goddard
  • John Waite
  • Dale Steyn
  • Allan Donald
  • Kagiso Rabada
  • Vernon Philander
  • Neil Adcock
  • Peter Pollock
  • Hugh Tayfield
India:
  • Sunil Gavaskar
  • Virendra Sehwag
  • Sachin Tendulkar
  • Rahul Dravid
  • Virat Kohli
  • Ravichandran Ashwin
  • Ravindra Jadeja
  • Vinoo Mankad
  • Kapil Dev
  • Rishabh Pant
  • Jasprit Bumrah
  • Anil Kumble
Pakistan:

  • Javed Miandad
  • Younis Khan
  • Inzamam-ul-Haq
  • Imran Khan
  • Wasim Akram
  • Waqar Younis
  • Shoaib Akhtar
  • Saqlain Mushtaq
New Zealand:

  • Kane Williamson
  • Martin Crowe
  • Richard Hadlee
Sri Lanka:
  • Kumar Sangakkara
  • Muttiah Muralitharan
Zimbabwe:

  • Andy Flower
Thanks very much.

Also putting them in approximate batting orders/grouped with players doing the same task is especially helpful.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Mohammad Rizwan


Geoff Boycott
Wally Hammond
Inzamam ul-Haq
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Mohammad Rizwan
Hedley Verity
Malcolm Marshall
Colin Croft
Jimmy Anderson
 

AndrewB

International Vice-Captain
John Waite

@AndyZaltzHair


Macartney's always an interesting one. He's been forgotten in the batting all-rounder stakes in drafts in the last couple of years, and even beforehand stood out to me as a gun but a departure from the traditional draft canon (even though he was picked rather frequently) -- you don't really see Charlie even being name-dropped in CC all too often. How would you guys rate him vis-a-vis Armstrong?
Hard to rate as an all-rounder; in his first two series he took quite a few wickets at about 20, while not scoring very many; after that his batting average kept going up, but he didn’t bowl very much. If you’re picking him as a #3, he’s only at about Hammond/Dexter/Chappell level as a bowler (but a spinner).
 

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