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2nd Test at Adelaide - 16 to 20 Dec

Burgey

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What’s this talk of Aus batting til tea tomorrow? They’ll declare well before then ffs
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Should have enforced the follow on.

Have given England a slightly better chance of a draw here.

If follow on had been enforced England would have had to bat 150+ overs --batting till at least halfway into day 5 to secure the match (15+overs today, 90 overs on day 4 and 45+ overs on day 5) .

150+ overs, ~450 runs, lead ~200


Now they need to bat out up to 130 overs instead of 150 overs, as Australia will bat another 50+ overs tomorrow.

So not enforcing the follow on has made it a little easier for England to draw the match. Still Aus should win comfortably but just saying.
have you ever played cricket, or any organised sport with physical endurance requirements, and if so where on earth did you get the idea that bowling 240 overs unbroken was a good idea for a cricket team
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
Should have enforced the follow on.

Have given England a slightly better chance of a draw here.

If follow on had been enforced England would have had to bat 150+ overs --batting till at least halfway into day 5 to secure the match (15+overs today, 90 overs on day 4 and 45+ overs on day 5) .

150+ overs, ~450 runs, lead ~200


Now they need to bat out up to 130 overs instead of 150 overs, as Australia will bat another 50+ overs tomorrow.

So not enforcing the follow on has made it a little easier for England to draw the match. Still Aus should win comfortably but just saying.
In fact it could even be 120 overs, if Australia bat slow or declare too late.

Without Cummins and Hazlewood, draw should be possible but English batting is so poor atm
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
I think England do need to move on from Broad and Anderson, but it would be a pretty horrible end to their Test careers as only weather is preventing a whitewash. I wouldn't even say England are in a transitional state as you need to have an established side for that to happen, but I seriously can only see Root and Robinson as likely starters for England in say, two years time.
Maybe Malan too. And Stokes of course, unless his knees really are shot. As for Broad and Anderson, I'm too lazy to check, but I don't think their summer statistics against NZ and India were all that special either, so maybe we are arriving at that point now. There's no shame in that, they've both been outstanding for years.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
have you ever played cricket, or any organised sport with physical endurance requirements, and if so where on earth did you get the idea that bowling 240 overs unbroken was a good idea for a cricket team
Mate get your head out of your arse
Australia would have most likely rolled England over again !!

That was the worst possible case scenario, which wasn't gonna happen as England would have struggled to even take the game into day 5. So an extra day off.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Maybe Malan too. And Stokes of course, unless his knees really are shot. As for Broad and Anderson, I'm too lazy to check, but I don't think their summer statistics against NZ and India were all that special either, so maybe we are arriving at that point now. There's no shame in that, they've both been outstanding for years.
Archer?
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Maybe Malan too. And Stokes of course, unless his knees really are shot. As for Broad and Anderson, I'm too lazy to check, but I don't think their summer statistics against NZ and India were all that special either, so maybe we are arriving at that point now. There's no shame in that, they've both been outstanding for years.
I mean Anderson took 15 @ 24 V India, if he wants to keep playing next summer then he walks into the team.

Bigger question marks over Broad for me
 

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