2nd greatest living cricketer

[ankitj]

After Sobers, it is Imran > Murali > Hadlee

 

[Coronis]

How can you be the greatest cricketer of any form of you weren’t the best at some point in one of the major disciplines

Because he was a top 5 batsman for a decade plus, as well as a very useful bowler and excellent fielder.

Kallis doesn't make ATXI of either Test or ODI(most people). Yet he is the greatest cricketer ?

Second greatest and living being the two caveats you forgot to mention. And who is the person preventing him from taking a spot in Test XI’s? Sobers.

 

[Teja.]

2. Imran Khan (batting is moderately overrated, bowling is moderately underrated but still easy decision)
3. Richard Hadlee (The best living fast bowler ever while also being a decent lower order batsman)
4. Jacques Kallis (I don't consider him to be in the top 10 batsmen of all time nor do I consider him anywhere as good an overall all rounder as Sobers due to his low wpm and lack of significant simultaneous success but overall, you gotta respect the value)
5. Shane Warne (basically as good as Murali v. top 8 nations, can actually hold a bat, great slip fielder. Also, people don't really understand the flexibility and balance that an ATG leg spinner can give to a bowling attack. Turned matches on a dime, haterz can suck it)
6. Muttaih Muralitharan (the best specialist bowler)
7. Sachin Tendulkar (only living batsman with similar longevity and quality of output is Sobers IMO). Generally, bowlers add more value to a XI per match but Sachin played for 23 years.
8. Sunil Gavaskar (better than any other living opener by an unhealthy amount)
9. Glenn McGrath - regularly traumatised World Class No.3s and No.4s. The stronger the opposite batting line up, the more useful McGrath was. The best bowler against the top order ever.
10. Brian Lara - definition of the clutch batsman. Scored something like 25% of his runs against McGrath and Warne which is absolutely ****ing absurd.

Honourable Mention to Viv Richards.

 

[smash84]

Has to be Imran (thinking of greatness in terms of not being limited to playing the game).

It's easy to forget that after his cricketing career was over he went into philanthropy and still has the Imran Khan foundation which has done some phenomenal work. Over the years it has built some really world class hospitals in Pakistan and worked tirelessly to raise funds for them, and these hospitals treat the poor free. He also built a university where 90% of students (because they come from impoverished backgrounds) study free.

 

[smash84]

2. Imran Khan
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Jacques Kallis (I don't consider him to be in the top 10 batsmen of all time nor do I consider him anywhere as good an overall all rounder as Sobers due to his low wpm but overall, you gotta respect the value)
5. Malcolm Marshall (he is at least as good a bowler as Murali while being quite handy with the bat, averaged 19 including multiple clutch innings)

Maco passed away last century buddy

 

[Teja.]

Maco passed away last century buddy

I knew this yet it somehow slipped my mind completely because of course I was considering everyone from his generation as they were relatively young.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

I knew this yet it somehow slipped my mind completely because of course I was considering everyone from his generation as they were relatively young.

I did the same... Ranked him at 8 before editing the post.

 

[nick-o]

Barry Richards

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Look who's having a chuckle at some of the suggestions.

 

[Migara]

Sobers is obviously the greatest, but who is the 2nd greatest?

Imran is the greatest so answer is Sobers.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I choose Fawad Alam

 

[Gob]

Imran is the greatest so answer is Sobers.

Warney is the number 1 easily

 

[Nintendo]

I know he didn't play much test but has to be proctor right? Guy was as good a bowler as hadlee and a far better batsmen from what i've heard.

 

[Gob]

I know he didn't play much test but has to be proctor right? Guy was as good a bowler as hadlee and a far better batsmen from what i've heard.

Didn't play enough

 

[Slifer]

Here's a logical question, assuming the South Africans from the 70s and 80s were allowed to play. How would we rate them assuming they only played the European based teams : NZ, ENG, AUS??

 

[ankitj]

Has to be Imran (thinking of greatness in terms of not being limited to playing the game).

It's easy to forget that after his cricketing career was over he went into philanthropy and still has the Imran Khan foundation which has done some phenomenal work. Over the years it has built some really world class hospitals in Pakistan and worked tirelessly to raise funds for them, and these hospitals treat the poor free. He also built a university where 90% of students (because they come from impoverished backgrounds) study free.

How does the fact that Imran thinks women's clothes are responsible for rapes affect his rating as a cricketer?

 

[Migara]

Here's a logical question, assuming the South Africans from the 70s and 80s were allowed to play. How would we rate them assuming they only played the European based teams : NZ, ENG, AUS??

Very poorly, as home track bullies.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

I know he didn't play much test but has to be proctor right? Guy was as good a bowler as hadlee and a far better batsmen from what i've heard.

Its Proctor. The best after Big 3 ( Sobers, Don, WG)

Procter played 16 "tests" in a span of 13 years.

1966 - 67
SA vs Australia
3 matches, 15wkts at 17.5 avg

1969-70
SA vs Australia
4 matches, 209 runs @ 34.8 avg
26 wkts @ 13.5 avg

1970
ROW vs England
5 matches, 292 runs @ 48.6
15 wkts @ 23.9

1978 - 79
World 11 ( 3 matches against Australia, 1 vs WI)
4 matches, 182 runs @ 30.3 avg
14 wkts @ 16 avg

 

[Fuller Pilch]

If Barry Richards can't win the 2nd best opener vote, Procter can't win this.

 

[smash84]

How does the fact that Imran thinks women's clothes are responsible for rapes affect his rating as a cricketer?

I don't know about that. He denied that he ever said that when CNN put that question to him.

However, what certainly marks him down is his backing of Mohammad Sami as the next potential coming of Malcolm Marshall