1966-85 World Test XI

[nightprowler10]

Surprised you fessed up, now a lot of Boycott Fans will be angry with you if he loses to Greenidge by 1 vote

That would suck. But in that case, couldn't you guys just take my vote into account for Boycott?

 

[Perm]

The closest I could find was the 1971-72 series against the West Indies where he scored 4 double-centuries on the tour, including the following Test scores (5-Tests):

223*, 21, 2, 95, 21, 259, 1, 50 = 672 runs @ 96.00

Pretty Impressive!

Thats the series aussie tragic, admittedly against one of the weaker bowling attacks the WI had, although Gibbs and Sobers were still quality.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Thats the series aussie tragic, admittedly against one of the weaker bowling attacks the WI had, although Gibbs and Sobers were still quality.

No,Sobers was an absolutely rubbish bowler & bowling average of 35(for someone who played on uncovered wickets) really shows that how crap he was.No one can deny that he's one of the greatest bastmen ever but he wasn't a good bowler & is definitely overrated as an allrounder.

 

[Pratters]

It would be interesting to see the averages of the openers against the four pronged Windies pace attack..

 

[oz_fan]

It would be interesting to see the averages of the openers against the four pronged Windies pace attack..

Amiss - Never faced the full WI pace attack. He faced Roberts and Holding and made a double hundered in the first innings when only one other English batsmen passed fifty.
Boycott - 41.43
Gavaskar - 41.38
Nazar - 18.40
Wessels - 58.00 - A third of Wessels innings were played at number 3.

 

[Matt79]

what about the windies vs aust with lillee and thommo?

 

[oz_fan]

what about the windies vs aust with lillee and thommo?

Greenidge - 17.9
Fredericks - 37.9
Haynes - 28.5

 

[Matt79]

Jeez that's poor by Greenidge, given the regard he's held in and how far he's killing Boycs in the vote. (don't know that I'd vote for him again now). Is that average from just one match or similar?

 

[marc71178]

Sobers was an absolutely rubbish bowler

Hmm, that's an interesting point of view that.

 

[Perm]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BhupinderSingh
Sobers was an absolutely rubbish bowler


Hmm, that's an interesting point of view that.

Just thinking that myself, from all accounts I've read I gathered that Sobers was a pretty good bowler.

 

[aussie]

Hmm, that's an interesting point of view that.

ha, it really is just because he averaged 35 doesn't mean he was crap, i'm sure stats don't show how good a bowler he was.

 

[aussie tragic]

Greenidge - 17.9
Fredericks - 37.9
Haynes - 28.5

Not exactly fair as Greenidge only played 5 tests when both Lillee & Thomson played and he had a shocking 1975 series where he had 2 tests with scores of 0, 0, 3 & 8.

Note: Other tests were one in 1979 (34, 0) and two in 1981 (66, 8 and 8, 52)

 

[R_D]

Not exactly fair as Greenidge only played 5 tests when both Lillee & Thomson played and he had a shocking 1975 series where he had 2 tests with scores of 0, 0, 3 & 8.

Note: Other tests were one in 1979 (34, 0) and two in 1981 (66, 8 and 8, 52)

5 test is more than enough... thats 10 test innings. thats pretty pathetic display.

I still voted for greenidge tho

 

[silentstriker]

It's really hard to rate the WI batsmen of that era, as they never had to face their own pace attack.

Boycs and Gavaskar IMO should win it, though Greenidge will probably win. Not that he doesn't deserve it, I just think Boycs was probably a little better.

 

[Slifer]

I voted for Greenidge not becuz i actually thought he was better than Boycott but because his overall aggression did it for me.

 

[aussie tragic]

5 test is more than enough... thats 10 test innings. thats pretty pathetic display.

I still voted for greenidge tho

Not really when you consider the first 2 tests were when he was just coming into the side in 1975 (and Walker, Gilmour, Thomo and Lillee all got him once) and also that only the tests that Lillee & Thomo played together were counted in oz_fan's stats.

The actual stats against "Australia" during the period are as follows:

Greenidge: 19 tests, 1056 runs @ 37.71 (2/6)
Fredericks: 15 test, 1069 runs @ 38.17 (1/5)
Haynes: 18 tests, 1161 runs @ 41.46 (2/10)

 

[Slifer]

I also dont think u shood hold his stats against Australia against him. Their are very few batsmen who r great against all teams. Every batsman has that one (or 2 teams) team or that one place (or places) where they just dont perform.

 

[bagapath]

sunny and greenidge for me. one defensive master technician to open with a natural stroke maker.

 

[JBH001]

Well Gavaskar and Greenidge would be a great opening combo - defense and technique allied to aggression and power, but I really rate Boycott, and - to an extent - think Greenidge a little over-rated compared to either of the other two.

So, despite it making little or no difference, seemingly, I go for Boycott and Gavaskar.
(I pity the bowlers bowling at these two - would have to really work for their wickets)

 

[aussie tragic]

Just over a day to go on the Opener Poll and with 47 votes counted, the status so far is:

1966-85 World XI

Gavaskar
Greenidge

1966-85 World 2nd XI

Boycott
Turner

Are there any other selectors out there, if so please pick TWO openers