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1966-85 World Test XI

Opening Batsmen for 1966-85 World Test XI


  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Matt79 said:
It's always going to be hypothetical isn't it tho? Greenidge probably would have been as effective if the rest of the team were crap, but equally he might have been merely good or v. good rather than apparently great. We can guess but we can never know. Its like working out what proportion of their success McGrath and Warne owe to each other.

But then when you vote for an all time team, its always the best team that actually played together (say WI of 1980's). So Bradman and Sobers wouldn't both make an all time team, for example. Because if you can't separate achievements from the team....thats what you end up with.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
It's a question of degrees. You can separate it out, but in doing so, you sometimes might guess at what impact it would have on a player's performance. If you think its pronounced enough, you might therefore decide to select openers (batting or bowling) as a pair.

And Bradman's team of 1948 would give the 1980s Windies a run for their money! :)
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
PhoenixFire said:
Boycottand Greenidge got my vote. The perfect foil for each other.

If you want a attacking/defensive combo, which is not a bad idea, wouldn't Gavaskar/Greendige be betteR?

Though I do rate Boycs highly, and I'm sorta in love with him (in a totally hetero way, you perverts) as a commentator, so I can't completely disagree with you.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Hehe I am too. I love him because he is a Yorkshireman (like me) and just loves batting (like me). He is a legend round these parts, and had the best defensive technique I've ever seen, so I'm gonna go for him, although Gavaskar was great too.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Well, Natman20 voted for all 11 Players :wacko: so I guess it hasn't changed the Poll result but it is a little dissapointing.

Also, NZtailender only voted for one opener, so I guess Glenn Turner will have to bat from both ends :)

Mods:Is it possible to change the Thread title to "Pick two Openers for 1966-85 World Test XI". This may help to make it clearer in case members don't click on the first post.....Just a thought, or maybe the above two cases are just a blip.
 
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Anil

Hall of Fame Member
gavaskar and boycott..the two best batsmen in that list....greenidge was great and might have been a better foil for sunny but boycott was just the better technician and batsman....
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
I'm actually kind of tempted to vote for Turner alongside Gavaskar. Greenidge was good, but he benifitted from being on a great side, whereas Turner was often the only class batsman on his team. He also suffered from playing on New Zealand pitches for many of his matches, which makes his mid forties average look a lot better, especially considering its as good or better than most of the players on the list. Still, it seems like the consensus is Greenidge and that vote will be in vain.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
What's with the Glenn Turner supporters.... three of the Glenn Turner voters did not vote for a second opener...sounds like a NZ conspiracy to me :)
 
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Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
aussie tragic said:
What's with the Glenn Turner supporters.... three of the Glenn Turner voters did not vote for a second opener...sounds like a NZ conspiracy to me :)
We harmless Kiwi's would never dream of a conspiracy.8-)
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Glenn Turner was is probably the most forgotten about of the people who scored 100 Hundreds in 1st Class cricket, and was a fabulous player.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
PhoenixFire said:
Glenn Turner was is probably the most forgotten about of the people who scored 100 Hundreds in 1st Class cricket, and was a fabulous player.
Totally agree, he also had one series (not sure what one it is) where he scored about 3 centuries in 4 games or something crazy like that.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Perm said:
Totally agree, he also had one series (not sure what one it is) where he scored about 3 centuries in 4 games or something crazy like that.
The closest I could find was the 1971-72 series against the West Indies where he scored 4 double-centuries on the tour, including the following Test scores (5-Tests):

223*, 21, 2, 95, 21, 259, 1, 50 = 672 runs @ 96.00

Pretty Impressive!
 
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nightprowler10

Global Moderator
LOL @ Natman voting for everyone.

I voted for Sunny and Amiss (accidentally, I wanted to vote for Boycott, although Amiss isn't a bad choice either.)
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
nightprowler10 said:
I voted for Sunny and Amiss (accidentally, I wanted to vote for Boycott, although Amiss isn't a bad choice either.)
Surprised you fessed up, now a lot of Boycott Fans will be angry with you if he loses to Greenidge by 1 vote :)
 

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