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  1. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Batting performance in terms of calendar years 50+ avg Kapil - 2 Botham - 0 45+ avg Kapil - 2 Botham - 1 40+ avg - Kapil - 3 Botham - 1 35+ avg Kapil - 6 Botham - 4 30+ avg Kapil - 12 Botham - 7 It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues. 😴
  2. Pap Finn Keighl

    Would Sachin still have debuted in tests at 16 in today's era?

    Yes. Actually he would have played at least one more series. Selectors was reluctant to select a kid to play against lethal pacers of WI, which resulted a delay in the debut even though he was already eligible. At the age of 18, he was recognized as world's biggest cricket star ( bigger than...
  3. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Its enough to decide who is better, not enough to put them in different leagues. Its very close, especially when considering one batted one position higher where the opportunities are more to score big. Add to that, Kapil's extra fast scoring and overall quality of opponents.
  4. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    33 vs 31 Gap in number of innings also negligible
  5. Pap Finn Keighl

    Ten players you wished you could have seen live in their prime?

    W.G. Grace - Greatest Batsman? Greatest Allrounder? Greatest Cricketer? Sydney Barnes - Greatest Bowler? Gary Sobers - Greatest Cricketer Don Bradman - Greatest Batsman Mike Procter - Greatest Cricketer in last 50 years Barry Richards, G. Pollock and Vander Bijl. Ranjit Singhji and Trumper.
  6. Pap Finn Keighl

    Jacques Kallis vs Imran Khan

    By that logic Ganteaume better batsman than Bradman. Klusner better ODI Batsman than Lara.
  7. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Yet he scored 15+ 75 scores , averaged almost same, more consistent, better against best bowling attack... Botham wouldn't have scored 14 centuries if he was batting at 7 and 8.
  8. Pap Finn Keighl

    Jacques Kallis vs Imran Khan

    Imran's peak came between 1980-88 He scored 2000 runs around 50 tests in this period, which is just Hadlee level. Not a proper specialist bat. Imran improved his batting after that, but he was no ATG bowler by then. Hadlee better bowler + better fielder Imran slightly better bat than hadlee...
  9. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    How is that? A super aggressive batsman who bats at number 7 or 8 with weak tail end batsmen supposed to score more 100s than a batsman bats at 6 or 7? What kind of logic is that?
  10. Pap Finn Keighl

    Jacques Kallis vs Imran Khan

    Imran's ATG bowler + handy bat period 1980-1988 played 48 tests scored 4 centuries and 10 fifties. ( nowhere close to a specialist bat ) in the Same period, Hadlee played 51 tests scored 2 centuries and 10 fifties. ( + Hadlee was better fielder )
  11. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Its not arbitrary.. Its fact checking. Botham does better.. But the gap is very small.
  12. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Its 23 innings.. Not 65 Botham just 1 more 75+ in 23 less innings.. That itself is a negligible difference. Add to that Kapil far more aggressive Better stats against stronger teams Batted below 6 mostly Still i think Botham was slightly better with bat, and both were capable of monster ATG...
  13. Pap Finn Keighl

    Downgrade one to rate another

    As batsmen Botham > Kapil > Imran > Hadlee > Pollock
  14. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    75+ scores Kapil 15 Botham 16 Kapil was far more aggressive and did against better opponents overall.
  15. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Kapil and Botham played in the same era and their averages are in similar league. As a batsman the difference in averages is just 2 points in favour of Botham. But then Kapil was far more aggressive and batted lower order, compensates the difference easily. Kapil's fast scoring helped his team...
  16. Pap Finn Keighl

    Downgrade one to rate another

    Procter is unique, all other Bowling Allrounders lack something that stops them from becoming perfect bowling allrounders. Hadlee - Batting not strong enough Imran - Batting ( bar last few years ) and fielding Kapil - Bowling below ATG level Botham - same as above Miller - Same as above...
  17. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Lol Botham - 75+ scores 16 times from 160+ innings Kapil - 75+ scores 15 times from 180+ innings Botham batted in top 6 most of the times while Kapil was outside top 6 mostly. Kapil did it against better teams overall. Kapil Scored at a much faster rate. Kapil played for a weaker team.
  18. Pap Finn Keighl

    Tendulkar/Lara vs Murali/Warne vs Kapil/Imran/Hadlee/Botham

    Warne vs Murali - closest Hadlee > Imran ( very close as cricketers ) > Kapil > Botham ( very close ) Hadlee better bowler and fielder than Imran, Imran was only slightly better batsman than Hadlee ( bar last few years where Imran clearly a better bat ) Kapil and Botham - better Allrounders...
  19. Pap Finn Keighl

    Downgrade one to rate another

    One thing i never understand is, Many people are willing to include / consider Barry Richards in their AT 11 while completely ignoring Mike Procter, who was more guaranteed ATG potential ( Allrounder ) and more proven in terms of Tests, Super Tests and longevity.
  20. Pap Finn Keighl

    Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

    Much more formidable batting unit? Botham slightly better bat than Kapil. Hadlee slightly better or equal bat to Pollock.

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