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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Cynics claimed that Bradman, who had just retired, was a strong supporter of more sporting pitches because he wanted to protect his own records. The move certainly put an end to the consistent high-scoring of Morris and Harvey, as well as Compton. At the end of August 1950 Morris had a Test...
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    With Hammond part of the explanation is the timeless Ashes Tests in Australia 1928-37. Pitches were rock hard, easy-paced and didn't deteriorate unless there was a rare thunderstorm. Virtually everybody scored slowly and was encouraged to do so. Hammond's average of 75 in these matches was...
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    *Official* Yorkshire CCC racism crisis thread

    The private school system can work against some young cricketers. A talented twelve-year-old wicket-keeper with a marginally better rival in the same year might never play in the first team. If the same situation occurred at his local club, there would soon be other clubs chasing him.
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    *Official* Yorkshire CCC racism crisis thread

    Schools are a different matter. Their job is to reach children whose parents are not interested in the game. Every club who plays in an ECB-approved premier league is obliged to run a comprehensive youth section with ECB-approved coaches. There are thirty such leagues currently with over a...
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    *Official* Yorkshire CCC racism crisis thread

    There are currently over 2,200 clubs in England and Wales running ECB-approved introductory cricket for children aged 5 and above. In addition virtually every child lives within a few miles of a club providing its own coaching and matches for eight-year olds upwards. There are actually too...
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    How many sons of famous cricketers have gone on to be stars?

    Jack Gregory's father didn't play Test cricket. Two uncles did. Another option for wicket-keeper is Denis Lindsay. Spinner is tricky. Neil Smith? Didn't play Tests. Maurice Tate took 200+ first-class wickets with off-spin before switching to seam.
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    On commentary Warne never seemed to rate Gilchrist's wicket-keeping. He once claimed that he had been fortunate to play with two top-class Australian keepers: Ian Healy and Darren Berry. He also said that Berry should have played Tests (presumably instead of Gilchrist). Warne rarely appeared to...
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Some All-Time World XIs from the past. 1919 [Pelham Warner and Frank Iredale. Each picked own team]: Grace, Trumper, Ranjitsinhji, Hill, Hobbs or Jackson, Noble*, Woolley or Peel, Lockwood or Richardson, Blackham+, Barnes or Lohmann, Spofforth. 1950 [Neville Cardus 1900-50]: Hobbs, Trumper...
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    Meaningless and stupid cricket statistics

    Bowlers' career averages in Ashes timeless Tests in Australia. Qualification 40 wickets. Wickets per match in brackets. From 1894 when pitches improved. Noble 20 (4.1) Trumble 21 (4.9) Barnes 22 (5.9) Voce 23 (4.6) Saunders 24 (5.8) O'Reilly 24 (5.2) Larwood 26 (5.1) Tate 28 (5.5) Rhodes 28...
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    Meaningless and stupid cricket statistics

    Career averages in Ashes timeless Tests in Australia. Qualification 1000 runs. Scoring rates for centuries in brackets (runs per hour). Hammond 75 (30) Bradman 72 (34) Sutcliffe 63 (25) Hobbs 57 (33) Armstrong 43 (35) MacLaren 42 (30) Hendren 40 (33) Hill 39 (38) Trumper 36 (39) Noble 35 (28)...
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    Thoughts on Geoffrey Boycott?

    As mentioned earlier in the thread, the McKinstry biography is a reasonable start point although the author was not granted any interviews. The book claims that Boycott was a late developer with limited natural talent. Through determination, courage, a shrewd cricket brain and obsession with...
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    Steve Smith vs George Headley

    In Headley's day Test matches involving West Indies were infrequent so their cricketers were often judged by performances in the first-class game around the world. To a certain extent this continued until county cricket welcomed significant numbers of overseas players in the late 1960s, and more...
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    Steve Smith vs George Headley

    Charlie Llewellyn was the first non-white cricketer to represent South Africa, playing 15 Tests between 1896 and 1912. The second was Omar Henry in 1992. Duleepsinhji and Subba Row both played for England in Tests against South Africa in England. Sobers hit 155 for South Australia against the...
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    Steve Smith vs George Headley

    First was Adam Parore in 1990.
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    The Longest Feud: Chappell v Botham Ashes

    Botham has been an oddly contradictory character, both loutish and generous. He professes to dislike Australia and her cricketers, once describing both as big and empty, yet is a UK government trade ambassador to the country. When asked to rank the so-called Fab Four in order, he placed Steve...
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    The best ATG fast attack

    Trueman admitted he was never as fast as Tyson. During his statistical peak, footage suggests Trueman was probably bowling at a similar pace to Anderson and Botham. Possibly also somewhere near Barnes and Hammond. That would give a rather samey all-time attack. Anderson also regarded himself...
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    The best ATG fast attack

    He was fast until about 1960. That year was probably his peak. It was said that his bowling in the West Indies in 1960, combining pace with swing, may have been the best by an English fast bowler abroad. 21 wickets @ 26 didn't do him full justice. Now more sure of his place in the side...
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    Geoff Armstrong- The 100 Greatest Cricketers

    There is logic to a 1930 date as the first-ever Test in South Africa on a grass wicket started on 1 January 1931. Herbie Taylor averaged 47 on matting and 32 on turf pitches. Obviously Barnes would take a hit. But he still has most English Ashes wickets in Australia, at a healthy average of 22...
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    Rank in order as batsmen: Chappell vs Gavaskar vs Richards vs Kallis vs Lara

    It seems to be a generational thing. Old writers often stressed how little notice they took of statistics, preferring to rely on what they and those before them had seen. Folk these days want hard data to back up their claims and challenge those of others, which is understandable given what is...
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    Rank in order as batsmen: Chappell vs Gavaskar vs Richards vs Kallis vs Lara

    In 1998 Simon Wilde began writing for The Times. That year his book Number One attempted to identify the world's leading batsmen and bowlers through time since 1768. He reckoned Barry Richards was top from 1970 until some time during 1976 when handing over to Viv Richards, who then held the...
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