You can't even depend on speed guns (Doppler radar) to distinguish between players in this day and age (WC2003 and England's tour of WI 2004 being cases in point).open365 said:Concerning old bowlers,does anyone have an accurate recorded speed for them? And when did speedometers come into cricket?
huh?luckyeddie said:You can't even depend on speed guns (Doppler radar) to distinguish between players in this day and age (WC2003 and England's tour of WI 2004 being cases in point).
The fact that so many players consistently seemed to be bowling at about 4 or 5 clicks faster than their normal speeds in certain one-off games - and altitude wasn't always the reason.open365 said:huh?
The alternative is that the speed guns are deliberately calibrated to give readings on the high side.iamdavid said:There was a little segment on the cricket show earlier this summer about a speed contest they had back in the 1970's in the nets at Perth, they got the fastest 7 or 8 bowlers of that era n lined em up in front of a speed gun for an over each I think it was.
I dont know how reliable the speedo was but I remember Thompson won it but his fastest delivery was only recorded in the high 140's ...and noboddy else was really close to him.
It seems pretty unreliable given that it wasnt a match situation and they werent given a whole lot of deliveries...but still...That would imply that if that was anywhere near accurate then Lee...Shoaib...Donald...Bond were at their respective peaks significantly quicker than the fastest of yesteryear.
Yeah, i ve heard this story as well but Thommo wasnt in 140's i think it was around 96 miles.iamdavid said:There was a little segment on the cricket show earlier this summer about a speed contest they had back in the 1970's in the nets at Perth, they got the fastest 7 or 8 bowlers of that era n lined em up in front of a speed gun for an over each I think it was.
I dont know how reliable the speedo was but I remember Thompson won it but his fastest delivery was only recorded in the high 140's ...and noboddy else was really close to him.
It seems pretty unreliable given that it wasnt a match situation and they werent given a whole lot of deliveries...but still...That would imply that if that was anywhere near accurate then Lee...Shoaib...Donald...Bond were at their respective peaks significantly quicker than the fastest of yesteryear.
Yeah I've read that before aswell....but it was during one of the Windies tests this summer that they showed the actual footage of them carrying the tests out and the results they got immediately after....and Thommo was under 150...all the other were low 140's at bestXuhaib said:Yeah, i ve heard this story as well but Thommo wasnt in 140's i think it was around 96 miles.
Holding was 93mph with Imran coming 3rd at 91mph.
a 90mph long hop...is that not a bouncer?Jungle Jumbo said:Often with the state of the wicket, the pitch of the ball and the general match conditions, some bowlers may feel far faster than others, even if they are really bowling at similar speeds. A reverse swinging yorker at 85mph may feel or look faster than a 90mph long hop.
no, if the ball bounces to about your chest/stomach, its a long hop even if its coming at 100mph.. bouncer is neck region or aboveSwervy said:a 90mph long hop...is that not a bouncer?