I love Larwood… but Anderson is the GOAT of longevity..188 Tests for a fast bowler definitely makes him look eliteso the Greatest English pacer of them all is agreed to be Sydney Francis Barnes, and the number two is obviously Fiery Fred Trueman, so who is the third Greatest English pacer of all time?
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Didn't he have a higher reputation than both Lindwall and TruemanLarwood is another very mythologised player.
Mhm. He had one of the great series for a pacer, but outside of that his record is (putting it nicely) poor and inconsistent.Didn't he have a higher reputation than both Lindwall and Trueman
yeah truly a bummer that he didn't have a career after bodylineMhm. He had one of the great series for a pacer, but outside of that his record is (putting it nicely) poor and inconsistent.
For example in his previous Ashes tour, a marvellous 8/62 in the first test. In the other 4 combined, 10/662.
I think it was truly a shame that he never played for England again but I’m only rating him on what he actually did in tests, not what could’ve been.
Frank Tysonso the Greatest English pacer of them all is agreed to be Sydney Francis Barnes, and the number two is obviously Fiery Fred Trueman, so who is the third Greatest English pacer of all time?
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That great series came when he was 30ish and going to start aging out soon, and used tactics that were banned after the series.Mhm. He had one of the great series for a pacer, but outside of that his record is (putting it nicely) poor and inconsistent.
For example in his previous Ashes tour, a marvellous 8/62 in the first test. In the other 4 combined, 10/662.
I think it was truly a shame that he never played for England again but I’m only rating him on what he actually did in tests, not what could’ve been.
Andersonso the Greatest English pacer of them all is agreed to be Sydney Francis Barnes, and the number two is obviously Fiery Fred Trueman, so who is the third Greatest English pacer of all time?
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Yeah I know. Still its a what if. He was still impressive in county. Definitely should have made the 36/37 team. Would have been an interesting psychological choice with Bradman’s first series as captain.That great series came when he was 30ish and going to start aging out soon, and used tactics that were banned after the series.
His FC record is great in general, and does leave a bit of a 'what if' feeling to his test record. But the what if is not so strong with him given his years of poorish test performances.Yeah I know. Still its a what if. He was still impressive in county. Definitely should have made the 36/37 team. Would have been an interesting psychological choice with Bradman’s first series as captain.
Larwood’s 1936 season..
22 matches 119 @ 12.97 SR 34.24 13 5’fers 4 10’fers (topped averages)
Yeah I know. I did say he’s overrated and over mythologised earlierHis FC record is great in general, and does leave a bit of a 'what if' feeling to his test record. But the what if is not so strong with him given his years of poorish test performances.
Larwood refused to play against the Australians in 1934, and made himself unavailable in 1936-37 when he went to India instead.yeah truly a bummer that he didn't have a career after bodyline
I’m pretty sure it was actually because he wouldn’t issue a public apology. Which he should not have had to.Larwood refused to play against the Australians in 1934, and made himself unavailable in 1936-37 when he went to India instead.
MCC (on behalf of the British government) was now more interested in maintaining good wider diplomatic relations with Australia than in winning cricket matches. Anybody likely to bowl fast and short was excluded. That meant no Voce in 1934. He had continued to bowl bouncers in county cricket and let it be known he would not spare the Australians. In August he took 8-66 for Notts in the tourists' first innings. Bradman didn't play. By 1936 Voce's stance had softened and he was chosen to tour.
only thing that consistently produces ATG pacers is flat home pitches and err, England doesn't have that.Its pretty surprising that England haven't produced more ATG pacers.
Took India a while.only thing that consistently produces ATG pacers is flat home pitches and err, England doesn't have that.