Is Kapil Dev an ATG test cricketer?

[subshakerz]

There's not much in it tbh.

- Botham without his runs vs India averaged only 29, Kapil had a much more even distribution of runs vs decent opposotion.
- Botham sucked against WI with bat and ball unlike Kapil who excelled.
- Botham in the last decade of his career averaged 37(!) with the ball. Though Kapil didn't have a peak as good as Botham, he was never close to worthless like Botham was for ages.

Botham being clearly ahead of Kapil is a total myth imo.

Botham simply was a notably better bat than Kapil while being roughly around the same as a bowler. To me it's quite clear Botham was better.

 

[Rob Wesley]

Botham is better than Kapil due to superior batting. Bowling wise, both are equal. Botham was worst vs Windies while Dev was the best vs Windies.

 

[DrWolverine]

Botham > Kapil
Both in batting & bowling

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Kapil > Botham
Botham slightly better bat
Kapil better bowler.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Botham > Kapil
Both in batting & bowling

Kapil is a better bowler imo

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Botham is probably better overall but I prefer Kapils bowling

 

[Johan]

Botham-Kapil bowling arguments have quite a few layers, Botham was definitely more destructive when in song even in his later years and definitely had a much higher peak but Kapil's durability and consistency are truly admirable and he bowled better vs the best team of his era.

batting wise I think Botham is pretty clearly better imo.

 

[sayon basak]

Kapil being the better bowler shouldn't be controversial at all. Botham the better bat, but overall it's close either way.

 

[Johan]

It might be close overall but the winner should be and is definitive

 

[sayon basak]

It might be close overall but the winner should be and is definitive

Don't disagree with that.

 

[akilana]

lol at Dev being a better bowler. Botham had a higher peak, better average, better SR and more 5-fers..

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

lol at Dev being a better bowler. Botham had a higher peak, better average, better SR and more 5-fers..

Better support, better conditions

 

[akilana]

Better support, better conditions

Dev had better conditions for batting, are you going to give botham extra credit for his batting?

 

[Johan]

Dev had better conditions for batting, are you going to give botham extra credit for his batting?

+ better batting support

 

[Coronis]

Better support, better conditions

in India
Botham 7 matches 30 @ 25.53 3 5’fers
Kapil 65 matches 219 @ 26.49 11 5’fers

in England
Botham 59 matches 226 @ 27.54 17 5’fers
Kapil 13 matches 43 @ 39.18 2 5’fers

 

[capt_Luffy]

in India
Botham 7 matches 30 @ 25.53 3 5’fers
Kapil 65 matches 219 @ 26.49 11 5’fers

in England
Botham 59 matches 226 @ 27.54 17 5’fers
Kapil 13 matches 43 @ 39.18 2 5’fers

In West Indies
Botham 9 matches 26 @ 39.50
Kapil 9 matches 35 @ 23.11

 

[sayon basak]

In West Indies
Botham 9 matches 26 @ 39.50
Kapil 9 matches 35 @ 23.11

In Zimbabwe:-
Kapil 1 match 3 @ 31
Botham 0 match 0 @ N/A

 

[Coronis]

In West Indies
Botham 9 matches 26 @ 39.50
Kapil 9 matches 35 @ 23.11

What does that have to do with their respective conditions?

 

[capt_Luffy]

What does that have to do with their respective conditions?

Are you implying that India was more productive than England during their playing days??

 

[Coronis]

Are you implying that India was more productive than England during their playing days??

What?