Geoff Boycott vs Herbert Sutcliffe

[The Sean]

Viv 1976-1986
75 Tests. 5924 runs @ 57. 19 tons.
I am assuming he added the WSC record too

I can see what he's done - he's taken numbers from the start of 1976 to the end of 1987 (so 12 years, not 11), and added WSC to that.

 

[Johan]

Where are those numbers from? There is no 11-year run where Viv made that many runs or hundreds.

took 76-87 (11 years) and added the WSC figures, I usually add WSC figures

 

[Coronis]

took 76-87 (11 years) and added the WSC figures, I usually add WSC figures

76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87 (12 years) Seems illogical but its because numbers start at 1, not 0 and we’re going from beginning to end of years)

 

[kyear2]

Boycott just faced much superior bowlers.

Boycs apart, I think Sutcliffe is rated higher around these parts today than when he retired

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Sutcliffe

 

[capt_Luffy]

Boycott just faced much superior bowlers.

Boycs apart, I think Sutcliffe is rated higher around these parts today than when he retired

So you rate Graeme Smith higher than Sutcliffe??

 

[Coronis]

So you rate Graeme Smith higher than Sutcliffe??

Or Gordon Greenidge?

 

[DrWolverine]

I think Sutcliffe is rated higher around these parts today than when he retired

After a certain point of time, people will forget how you play and remember only the numbers and statistics.

1. Even if you take 25 Tests as the minimum criteria, only two batsmen have an average above the mythical 60 - Bradman & Sutcliffe

2. Sutcliffe also managed to score end his career with an average of 60.73 despite playing 54 Test matches and scoring 4555 runs.

3. There is also something magical about a batsman never having his average drop below 60 and only batsmen in history who did it is Sutcliffe

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Kyear rates Smith and Greenidge higher than Boycott I think and he voted Boycott here

 

[Johan]

After a certain point of time, people will forget how you play and remember only the numbers and statistics.

1. Even if you take 25 Tests as the minimum criteria, only two batsmen have an average above the mythical 60 - Bradman & Sutcliffe

2. Sutcliffe also managed to score end his career with an average of 60.73 despite playing 54 Test matches and scoring 4555 runs.

3. There is also something magical about a batsman never having his average drop below 60 and only batsmen in history who did it is Sutcliffe

Cricket and Chess are the two games where I feel like the modern audience loves knowing about the past, I think people would always read into past Cricketers

 

[DrWolverine]

Kyear rates Smith and Greenidge higher than Boycott I think and he voted Boycott here

For me Boycott is the second best post war opener or third best if you consider Len Hutton as well

 

[Johan]

Other than being obviously a far better Batsmen, Sutcliffe was also (most likely) a better person, kept his hair instead of going bald in 20s, was less revolting to look at, and unlike Geoffrey's harsh words, Sutcliffe has a beautiful way with words, plus he's a Hutton fan like myself

“Hutton has not yet received his Yorkshire cap, and he is no more than 18 years old, but I am bold enough to say that he is a certainty for a place as England’s opening batsman. He is a marvel — the discovery of a generation. At the age of 14 he was a good enough batsman to play from most county sides, and season by season since then I have watched his progress steadily … This boy will be a power in the land before many moons, and I should not be surprised to find him attracting as much attention as any batsman, including the great Don [Bradman], for his style and his polished skill must triumph.

won't be wrong to say that Sutcliffe beat Boycott in every regard of life.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Other than being obviously a far better Batsmen, Sutcliffe was also (most likely) a better person, kept his hair instead of going bald in 20s, was less revolting to look at, and unlike Geoffrey's harsh words, Sutcliffe has a beautiful way with words, plus he's a Hutton fan like myself



won't be wrong to say that Sutcliffe beat Boycott in every regard of life.

Also had a healthy married life, and man his Wikipedia/Cricinfo photo slaps:

 

[capt_Luffy]

What animal is that btw??

 

[Johan]

Also had a healthy married life, and man his Wikipedia/Cricinfo photo slaps:

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is that a pet that can hang out on his shoulder!? 10/10, dude won life

 

[Johan]

What animal is that btw??

that's a possum I think

 

[sayon basak]

For me Boycott is the second best post war opener or third best if you consider Len Hutton as well

Agree.

 

[sayon basak]

What animal is that btw??

Doraemon.

 

[Johan]

So you rate Graeme Smith higher than Sutcliffe??

next is Alastair Cook > Herbert Sutcliffe

 

[capt_Luffy]

next is Alastair Cook > Herbert Sutcliffe

Honestly, Alaistar Cook might actually be better than Smith