2024–25 NZ domestic season

[Immenso]

I think Shipley's return is being handled more cautiously. As in by Canterbury.

He presumably wasn't strong enough at end of SS to go straight into the 50 over stuff. I think last round was his first match of Ford Trophy , where as Jamieson did.

 

[ataraxia]

I think Shipley's return is being handled more cautiously. As in by Canterbury.

He presumably wasn't strong enough at end of SS to go straight into the 50 over stuff. I think last round was his first match of Ford Trophy , where as Jamieson did.

Jamieson didn't play the first two rounds of the FT either, for what it's worth. Not that it invalidates the point: Shipley was also 12th man for four T20s that Jamieson played.

 

[RMBolton]

With so many players out, I will be seriously pissed if Gurrey doesn't get called up. What the heck does she have to do to get selected?

 

[RMBolton]

Boy, it's a thriller. The identity of the finalists not being known until the last ball. Isn't it fun? Add in the Cantabs & Aces fighting for top spot & the Blaze avoiding the wooden spoon, it's been a fun One Day season so far.

 

[ataraxia]

The Firebirds might have just bottled it going for the NRR over Otago. Oh my lord.

 

[ataraxia]

Lenno!

 

[SteveNZ]

Worse players have played for NZ than Brett Hampton, right?

I know he's 33 but I wouldn't at all begrudge him getting an NZ cap late in his career, as a T20I finisher/effective 6th bowler. He's had a wonderful season. The likes of Andrew Ellis, Ewen Thompson, Michael Bates, Anaru Kitchen all got caps that felt like they were odes to a long FC career, and I reckon Hampton deserves one.

Maybe the Pakistan series with all the IPL players out is a good time. I reckon he's a better player than Clarkson is, for example.

 

[SteveNZ]

Ish with another doozy to get rid of Finn Allen (c)

 

[straw man]

The Firebirds might have just bottled it going for the NRR over Otago. Oh my lord.

ATG choke there. Didn't know about the nrr thing, I just looked at the scorecard where they needed 50 from 20 overs with 6 wickets in hand, and wondered what the hell happened. Peak Direbirds. Looks otherwise like an excellent century from Abbas until he failed to see it home. Meanwhile I think Severin has barely made double figures all season.

 

[RMBolton]

The Firebirds might have just bottled it going for the NRR over Otago. Oh my lord.

*Bonus Point.

It's a weird system of tiebreakers: (points), wins, bonus points, NRR.

They were too busy trying to go fast enough to get the BP to try & force the Volts to have to go for the BP as well. Just getting the win meant that Otago only needed to win to push past them (a win would tie the two teams on points & wins, & OTG would advance by leading on BPs 3-1). In the end, the Stags capitalised & used the 'Birds' desperation against them to knock them both out & secure their own spot in Dunedin.

 

[ataraxia]

*Bonus Point.

It's a weird system of tiebreakers: (points), wins, bonus points, NRR.

They were too busy trying to go fast enough to get the BP to try & force the Volts to have to go for the BP as well. Just getting the win meant that Otago only needed to win to push past them (a win would tie the two teams on points & wins, & OTG would advance by leading on BPs 3-1). In the end, the Stags capitalised & used the 'Birds' desperation against them to knock them both out & secure their own spot in Dunedin.

Of course – forgot about that. I remember CD were on the right side of a couple of tight BP chases a week or two ago.

Didn't know about the tiebreakers though. That's a bit strange. Is the point of the bonus-point tiebreaker to punish teams who have played in more NR games? I guess that makes some sense.

 

[NZTailender]

I was reading the scorecards and was like lol wtf massive choke from wellington, how do you lose that and then the nrr makes sense I guess.

Exciting round in the end

 

[NZTailender]

Keeper watch:
Cleaver (1) - 7 (16)
McLachlan (6) - 4 (2)
Hay (4) - 9 (13)
Fletcher (4) - 43* (31)
Seifert (3) - 21 (17)
Chu - DNB

Cleaver, Fletcher and Hay still more batting to come, but for the rest:
Chu - 290 @ 36.25, 109.25 sr
Seifert - 240 @ 48, 121.82 sr
McLachlan - 70 @ 8.75, 63 sr 🫥

 

[RMBolton]

Of course – forgot about that. I remember CD were on the right side of a couple of tight BP chases a week or two ago.

Didn't know about the tiebreakers though. That's a bit strange. Is the point of the bonus-point tiebreaker to punish teams who have played in more NR games? I guess that makes some sense.

It's the most complicated of the lot:

• Plunket Shield: points, wins
• FT/HBJS: points, wins, bonus points, NRR
• SS: points, NRR

 

[Neil Young]

Hilarious. How did Wgtn contrive to lose that!?

And what is the point of McLachlan?

 

[Athlai]

McLachlan is genuinely losing games with that record

 

[NZTailender]

McLachlan is genuinely losing games with that record

I mean he's playing down the order so he's slightly less of a liability, but if you need a late order hitter to add icing to an innings or see off a run chase, it ain't him.

I'd say Cleaver's a bigger liability given he's opening the batting. 10 matches, 10 innings, 134 runs @14.88, sr of 79.28

 

[NZTailender]

Hilarious. How did Wgtn contrive to lose that!?

And what is the point of McLachlan?

Also, it's not like he's having 1 bad season

2024/25: 70 @ 8.75 (10 games)
2023/24: 167 @ 18.55 (9 games)
2022/23: 28 @ 14 (2 games)

Like I'm baffled by Wellington here - do they see him as a backup to Blundell when he's on international duty?

As I said previously, if Seifert is going to be given preference when he's not swanning off to T20 tournaments, Pomare could do worse then shifting cities for more secure game time. Or literally any other fringe keeper.

 

[SteveNZ]

I mean he's playing down the order so he's slightly less of a liability, but if you need a late order hitter to add icing to an innings or see off a run chase, it ain't him.

I'd say Cleaver's a bigger liability given he's opening the batting. 10 matches, 10 innings, 134 runs @14.88, sr of 79.28

More grist to my 'Cleaver is overrated' mill

 

[Flem274*]

More grist to my 'Cleaver is overrated' mill

He's probably not an opener, or really much of a white ball player, but has been a vital part in our red ball strength of the past decade.