Viv Richards & Allan Donald vs Brian Lara & Curtly Ambrose

[Coronis]

speak clearly, I don't remember mythologizing anyone bar maybe Headley

You don’t see the irony in calling a player mythologized in comparison with arguably the most mythologized player in history?

 

[Johan]

You don’t see the irony in calling a player mythologized in comparison with arguably the most mythologized player in history?

Yeah but Viv's myth bubble is long busted, doesn't everyone know he was just AB De Villiers but from trundlers era who just gets overrated by clowns who like Chewing gum and Beards? Lara's myth is still going strong.

Lara is just a Kane Williamson who happened to play flighted spin decently and punched above his weight against McGrath, that's about it. actually Kane seems to be more respectable, he isn't a selfish record chaser nor led player strikes because his feelings were hurt like Lara did. Quality bowling and Lara is basically Ollie Pope, Dude's batting has as many holes as swiss cheese.

Not that Viv was much better, threatening to kill young bowlers and scaring fielders, barely averages 50 in a GOATed lineup, worse than his teammates in Australia and India, can't play in challenging conditions at home, clueless against fast spin in Sydney, like a Kohli without the decline phase being as bad.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Lol viv>>>lara anyday anytime viv Richards king of cricket

 

[govinda indian fan]

Top ten batters imo
Bradman
Tendulkar
Hobbs
Viv
Sobers
Smith
Lara
Hutton
Hammond
Sunny/kallis/punter

 

[Johan]

Lara vs Viv is kinda a comparison of two overrated mytholized goobers, I guess Viv is a little less flawed of the two.

just for reference, I never really got to watch Viv play and have no memory of him, Lara was by far my favourite Cricketer in childhood as well as my most positive Cricket memory from the dark ages (Ashes 89-05), still is one of my favourites to the day

 

[subshakerz]

Lara is too mytholized imo.

Now you understand. but so few do.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Meaningless and stupid cricket statistics

I alluded to this in one of the Australia-India threads last night. In cricket there are certain figures that people love to use to prove how good or bad a player is that, if you think about it, don't really prove or tell you anything. My least favourite is the old 'player x only averages y if...

www.cricketweb.net

Also:

 

[sayon basak]

I prefer a batters average to be the same at every ground

Pretty sure some random tail ender comes close.

 

[kyear2]

Lara is too mytholized imo.

Wouldn't go that far.

A hair below these guys, if that.

 

[kyear2]

Irony about what

He's just being him .

 

[kyear2]

You don’t see the irony in calling a player mythologized in comparison with arguably the most mythologized player in history?

Warne?

 

[kyear2]

Top ten batters imo
Bradman
Tendulkar
Hobbs
Viv
Sobers
Smith
Lara
Hutton
Hammond
Sunny/kallis/punter

Not exactly the same, but can live with it.

 

[kyear2]

Now you understand. but so few do.

No one is more mythologized than Tendulkar right now.

The current take is that he's cricket perfection who dominated all the greatest bowlers of the 90, and lacking flaws.

And based on the latest crop of forum members, Sunny isn't far behind.

 

[subshakerz]

No one is more mythologized than Tendulkar right now.

The current take is that he's cricket perfection who dominated all the greatest bowlers of the 90, and lacking flaws.

And based on the latest crop of forum members, Sunny isn't far behind.

Honestly that is nonsense.

Venerating a player based on his achievements isn't mythologizing.

Please show where he has been described repeatedly in such terms. You have built a strawman and it is becoming tiresome.

 

[Coronis]

Honestly that is nonsense.

Venerating a player based on his achievements isn't mythologizing.

Please show where he has been described repeatedly in such terms. You have built a strawman and it is becoming tiresome.

You’d never see kyear mythologizing a player with multiple paragraphs tbf

 

[capt_Luffy]

Gotta give props how the "latest crop" is literally me; and it's been over a year and a half by now.....

 

[subshakerz]

Gotta give props how the "latest crop" is literally me; and it's been over a year and a half by now.....

Seems longer. You are a welcome voice here eve when we disagree.

 

[OverratedSanity]

The current take is that he's cricket perfection who dominated all the greatest bowlers of the 90, and lacking flaws.

Making things up to get mad at. @kyear2 's favourite hobby on CW.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Seems longer. You are a welcome voice here eve when we disagree.

I literally can't name anyone but me who rates Sunny top tier (not even top 10, as most people either rate him or Hammond 10th, like I do, it's a ****ing stupid tier thing). PFK, that's pretty much it.

 

[sayon basak]

I literally can't name anyone but me who rates Sunny top tier (not even top 10, as most people either rate him or Hammond 10th, like I do, it's a ****ing stupid tier thing). PFK, that's pretty much it.

You rate Gavaskar at 9th spot, don't get how that is unreasonably high.