Who is the best since Bradman?

[DrWolverine]

Then what will you say about Ambrose who didn't even played same number of match in unfavorable conditions of Asia?

Yes Ambrose didn’t play much in Asia.

But check out his record in Australia, England and WestIndies.

Even though the sample size is less, he did decent in NZ, SA & Pak.

 

[DrWolverine]

Okay but Ambrose is not above Steyn.

I can see the argument for both bowlers.

 

[sayon basak]

Okay but Ambrose is not above Steyn.

Ambrose vs Steyn is very close. You may put them in any order.

 

[subshakerz]

Even though the sample size is less, he did decent in NZ, SA & Pak.

He was underwhelming in these places and didn't play really in SL and India.

We are basing him on Aus, Eng and WI (where his home record is also underwhelming).

 

[subshakerz]

Ambrose vs Steyn is very close. You may put them in any order.

Steyn. Just a better allround bowler.

 

[DrWolverine]

Ambrose vs Steyn is very close. You may put them in any order.

Steyn. Ambrose. Donald. Imran.
Maybe Lillee or Holding or Garner.

All have their pluses and minuses.
It really depends on what you want.
Choose however you like and what they offer.

 

[Narayana]

Steyn. Ambrose. Donald. Imran.
Maybe Lillee or Holding or Garner.

All have their pluses and minuses.
It really depends on what you want.
Choose however you like and what they offer.

What are the negetives of Donald?

 

[subshakerz]

What are the negetives of Donald?

Sub par in five out of six series against Australia, best side of his era.

IMO also overrated away but I don't want to get into it.

 

[DrWolverine]

What are the negetives of Donald?

Record against/in Australia, the best team of his era.

 

[Narayana]

Sub par in five out of six series against Australia, best side of his era.

IMO also overrated away but I don't want to get into it.

Pollock and Donald are same tier or not?

 

[DrWolverine]

Allan Donald just didn’t click against Aus
He averages 28 vs Aus and 31 in Aus.
Otherwise his record is simply extraordinary
Minimum Sample Size : 3 Tests
Sub 23 average against 7 out of 8 countries
Sub 25 average in 5 out of countries

 

[DrWolverine]

Pollock and Donald are same tier or not?

No.

 

[sayon basak]

Pollock and Donald are same tier or not?

Donald>Pollock.

I rate Donald at 13 as a bowler, and Pollock at 21.

 

[subshakerz]

Pollock and Donald are same tier or not?

Donald is an ATG. Not Pollock.

 

[Narayana]

Allan Donald just didn’t click against Aus
He averages 28 vs Aus and 31 in Aus.
Otherwise his record is simply extraordinary
Minimum Sample Size : 3 Tests
Sub 23 average against 7 out of 8 countries
Sub 25 average in 5 out of countries

Who are the Top 5 South African bowlers? Names

 

[subshakerz]

Allan Donald just didn’t click against Aus
He averages 28 vs Aus and 31 in Aus.
Otherwise his record is simply extraordinary
Minimum Sample Size : 3 Tests
Sub 23 average against 7 out of 8 countries
Sub 25 average in 5 out of countries

Yeah the only caveat is he has a pretty short career concentrated around his peak and not many full repeat tours outside of Aus and England. So it's a bit of a juiced up record.

 

[DrWolverine]

Yes. A relatively short career like Marshall. I don’t think he played even a decade.

Some say he was unlucky to have debuted late while some say he was lucky to have debuted at the age of 25 and I am guessing it is a mix of both.

 

[DrWolverine]

I rate Donald at 13 as a bowler, and Pollock at 21.

Can I see your Top 15 bowlers?

 

[Narayana]

Can I see your Top 15 bowlers?

Can I see your top 5 South African bowlers?

 

[DrWolverine]

Steyn. Donald. Pollock.
Not sure about the rest.
Philander? Adcock? Pollock?