Who is the best since Bradman?

[Thala_0710]

What about Hobbs??

Yeah he's there too, although I find it hard to rate pre WW players, but he's like that version of Sachin. Maybe Hobbs and Sachin for no 2, although I'd still go Sachin

 

[sayon basak]

@sayon basak btw didn't you vote Trumper over Ponting?

I don't remember. But I rate Ponting in my top 15.

 

[Johan]

Hobbs was averaging 57 when the second best batter of his generation (Trumper) was averaging 39, He's another breed.

 

[Johan]

my top 15 ignoring active players

1. Donald Bradman

2. Jack Hobbs
3. Sachin Tendulkar/Viv Richards
4. Sachin Tendulkar/Viv Richards
5. Garfield Sobers
6. Len Hutton
7. Brian Lara
8. Wally Hammond
9. George Headley
10. Sunil Gavaskar
11. Herbert Sutcliffe
12. Greg Chappel
13. Ricky Ponting/Jack Kallis
14. Ricky Ponting/Jack Kallis
15. Graeme Pollock

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hobbs was averaging 57 when the second best batter of his generation (Trumper) was averaging 39, He's another breed.

Trumper was of the previous generation really. It's like saying Sachin and Smith were of the same Gen

 

[capt_Luffy]

my top 15 ignoring active players

1. Donald Bradman

2. Jack Hobbs
3. Sachin Tendulkar/Viv Richards
4. Sachin Tendulkar/Viv Richards
5. Garfield Sobers
6. Len Hutton
7. Brian Lara
8. Wally Hammond
9. George Headley
10. Sunil Gavaskar
11. Herbert Sutcliffe
12. Greg Chappel
13. Ricky Ponting/Jack Kallis
14. Ricky Ponting/Jack Kallis
15. Graeme Pollock

Gavaskar way too low, especially behind Hammond and Headley

 

[Johan]

Trumper was of the previous generation really. It's like saying Sachin and Smith were of the same Gen

alright, Hobbs was averaging 57 while some of the best batters in the world were averaging 40 while having more favourable home conditions

 

[Johan]

you all know what? Hutton is in the BAB discussion

 

[Johan]

Gavaskar way too low, especially behind Hammond and Headley

I rate Headley quite highly

 

[capt_Luffy]

I rate Headley quite highly

Yeah, me too. But I find both him and Hammond tough to place in the BAB tier as they never really faced any Great pacers in Tests arena. A lot of good ones, but not a single with a Great Test career.

 

[Johan]

Yeah, me too. But I find both him and Hammond tough to place in the BAB tier as they never really faced any Great pacers in Tests arena. A lot of good ones, but not a single with a Great Test career.

if they were both a couple years younger we'd have got to see them vs Lindwall and Miller, sigh

 

[centurymaker]

Was just about to post this. Kimber makes the case what we am have been saying. You cant get past Tendulkar's longevity.

But perhaps Smith has a case over some others like Lara, Hutton etc.

It's not a good analysis. Shouldn't be using a metric like match factor when one has a far far better bowling attack - which helps significantly reduce the match averages and in turn considerably boost the match factor. It's only a valid metric if two players have a similar strength bowling attack and similar strength batting unit. You'll be hard pressed to find such cases. So it's a crap metric.

 

[Johan]

daily reminder that Sachin and Viv averages about the same in actuality, Sobers is weird though

 

[centurymaker]

daily reminder that Sachin and Viv averages about the same in actuality, Sobers is weird though

One played 80 more tests & 7.5 more years than the other. It's too big a differential to overcome imo unless the other avgs like 4-5 points more.

 

[Johan]

One played 80 more tests & 7.5 more years than the other. It's too big a differential to overcome imo unless the other avgs like 4-5 points more.

think Tendulkar vs Viv is just another case of longetivity vs Peak, Sobers is an interesting discussion, I generally rate both below either but his record is actually superior to either

 

[capt_Luffy]

daily reminder that Sachin and Viv averages about the same in actuality, Sobers is weird though

Nah they don't. Also different career lengths. Viv overrated.

 

[Johan]

Nah they don't. Also different career lengths. Viv overrated.

 

[Johan]

This is the only Cricketting community that I've ever come to see on Internet that actively belittles Viv Richards, you hate to see it.

 

[honestbharani]

Best since Bradman is Sobers. Next best is Lara. Rest are below them.

 

[capt_Luffy]

This is the only Cricketting community that I've ever come to see on Internet that actively belittles Viv Richards, you hate to see it.

No one belittles him lol. Some just think he wasn't definitively better than Lara or Gavaskar or Chappell or Barrington.....