Bill Woodfull vs Graeme Smith

[Cricket Bliss]

Ok that might be a bit too much. Though I'm not sure if he said that.

Just assume Kallis actually fits there or just leave it… but gauged on minnows, harmless accumulator of runs?

 

[sayon basak]

Subs treats Ashwin like Luffy treats Trueman

Don't think Luffy rates Trueman below Philander.

 

[Johan]

Don't think Luffy rates Trueman below Philander.

iirc he rates Trueman around Mohammad Shami

 

[capt_Luffy]

Subs treats Ashwin like Luffy treats Trueman

I do rate Trueman as an ATG, top 17 bowler over even Bumrah and don't go to make arguments for Willis>Trueman

 

[Johan]

I do rate Trueman as an ATG, top 17 bowler over even Bumrah and don't go to make arguments for Willis>Trueman

This is like PC saying he doesn't hate Root and then saying "I don't make an argument for Ben Stokes over Joe Root in batting".

 

[sayon basak]

I do rate Trueman as an ATG, top 17 bowler over even Bumrah and don't go to make arguments for Willis>Trueman

Yeah I rate Trueman at 14 as a bowler; so, Fair.

Bumrah might take it after the ENG series ig.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

once compared with Bradman, yeah definitely

sorry just read that he was once compared with bradman…that was why confused

 

[Johan]

Bumrah might take it after the ENG series ig.

If Duckett and Crawley play as well as they did in 2024 India series, I reckon India is in trouble, they need Bumrah to bullrush through England every inning.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Ok that might be a bit too much. Though I'm not sure if he said that.

But one thing i am sure.. he once posted a link somewhere in which a pundit claims that Kallis is not an all rounder and is just a batsmen who knows to bowl…comparing him with Shane Warne who averages just 17 with the bat!! and subs was supporting that claim suggesting that Kallis was never a true all rounder..but a batsman who knows to bowl and he is top among that category

tried to find it…but couldn’t since subs mentioning Kallis is infinite here

 

[capt_Luffy]

This is like PC saying he doesn't hate Root and then saying "I don't make an argument for Ben Stokes over Joe Root in batting".

I rate Trueman 17th overall and 14th among Pacers. The ones ahead are Donald, Lillee, Garner, Holding and Lindwall..... I don't think it's really controversial really

 

[Johan]

I rate Trueman 17th overall and 14th among Pacers. The ones ahead are Donald, Lillee, Garner, Holding and Lindwall..... I don't think it's really controversial really

Lindwall and Lillee? Yuck

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lindwall and Lillee? Yuck

Lillee has a Great WPM and is ATG in England, Lindwall much more well rounded record

 

[Johan]

Lillee has a Great WPM and is ATG in England, Lindwall much more well rounded record

Lillee was probably given much more reasonable wickets in 70s England than Trueman was given in 62-63 Ashes. Lindwall I don't rate that highly tbh, I don't think he bowled to lineups as good.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

This is like PC saying he doesn't hate Root and then saying "I don't make an argument for Ben Stokes over Joe Root in batting".

Tbf I’ve changed my opinion and now do think he will score a hundred and have a decent series in Aus

I don’t think he’s going to average 75+ though like @GIMH

 

[sayon basak]

I don’t think he’s going to average 75+ though like @GIMH

75+ was just a conservative statement from him. He actually thinks he'll average 100+.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

75+ was just a conservative statement from him. He actually thinks he'll average 100+.

Pretty reasonable

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I rate Trueman 17th overall and 14th among Pacers. The ones ahead are Donald, Lillee, Garner, Holding and Lindwall..... I don't think it's really controversial really

Where do you have Cummins atm?

 

[Johan]

@capt_Luffy if you have Cummins over Trueman it's war btw

 

[capt_Luffy]

Where do you have Cummins atm?

@capt_Luffy if you have Cummins over Trueman it's war btw

19th. Below Trueman and Bumrah

 

[sayon basak]

19th. Below Trueman and Bumrah

19th is too high imo.