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England Lions Tour of Australia and England U19 Tour of South Africa

Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
A bizarre wicket with Sawant sweeping a ball straight into the helmet of the short leg fielder and it rebounding back into the stumps where the batsman had taken a step outside his crease. They discussed it for about 5 minutes whether it was out before eventually sending him on his way.

Two dodgy lbw's (Vaughan got a shocker) and all of a sudden SA in command.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
Just saw the footage now. That is freakish as hell. Thought about it once but thought no ways could it ever happen lol
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
SeamUp said:
Just saw the footage now. That is freakish as hell. Thought about it once but thought no ways could it ever happen lol
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I presume, as the helmet is protective clothing and deemed part of the fielder then it is fine. I hadn't even realised what had happened at first as the health of the fielder seemed more important.

Match really well set up for the final day, with the pitch offering something for the spinners, 260+ probably going to take some getting.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
Molehill said:
I presume, as the helmet is protective clothing and deemed part of the fielder then it is fine. I hadn't even realised what had happened at first as the health of the fielder seemed more important.

Match really well set up for the final day, with the pitch offering something for the spinners, 260+ probably going to take some getting.
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Yould could see after all that happened the batsman gesturing his arm about the fielders health like that was his concern & why he didn't get back but it happened so quickly. I don't know, maybe SA should have withdrawn the appeal but then you think he is out & the fielder technically did everything right fielding in the position where that could happen.

Yup maybe 40/40/20 for England win, draw, SA win. Just need to get 2/3 wickets early and then SA can't bat naturally.
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
SeamUp said:
England did enough to ensure they can't lose this morning.

Update on that run out.

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The angle was clearly misleading to the batsman too who kept pointing at the helmet, I'm guessing it would've made a different noise too.

Not sure I'm buying that, looked clearly off the helmet to me, not to mention the way the fielder went down not exactly holding his knee.
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Looks like England need 2 wickets to win in the last half an hour or so of play, Farhan already has 5. This has been a superb Test, will there be a winner?
 
Red_Ink_Squid

Red_Ink_Squid

Global Moderator
kevinw said:
When we are next in South Asia? The Ahmed bros could be our main spinners.
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In Tests, not until Feb 2027 vs Bangladesh I don't think. Farhan seems a great talent, given his current rate of development and the quality of our spin stocks, you'd think he's a fair chance of making that tour.
 
Immenso

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
I don't (and didn't) like the change to the rule where catches (and presumably runouts) are no no longer scrubbed out if the ball hits the fielder's helmet.

Although, I admit watching the TV Umpire rock-and-roll to see if a catch scraped a grill was tedious. Which I witnessed once.

I just don't think fielding teams should be given that advantage for fielding 'artificially close'. A pull shot that balloons up off a helmet for a catch (or in this case rebounds on to the stumps) is 'fake cricket'. No one is satisfied seeing it.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Immenso said:
I don't (and didn't) like the change to the rule where catches (and presumably runouts) are no no longer scrubbed out if the ball hits the fielder's helmet.

Although, I admit watching the TV Umpire rock-and-roll to see if a catch scraped a grill was tedious. Which I witnessed once.

I just don't think fielding teams should be given that advantage for fielding 'artificially close'. A pull shot that balloons up off a helmet for a catch (or in this case rebounds on to the stumps) is 'fake cricket'. No one is satisfied seeing it.
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Yeah I hate it as well but they're doing it so they don't sued by someone who ends up with a head injury fielding close in.
 
Immenso

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Prince EWS said:
Yeah I hate it as well but they're doing it so they don't sued by someone who ends up with a head injury fielding close in.
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I understand that. But can make it compulsory, while still keeping the old rule interpretation.

It did work for about 40 years, on the legside, although had some macho men, (or simply no team helmet), at silly mid-off for about 20 to 30 years ...
 
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mackembhoy

mackembhoy

International Regular
Bashir was picked on the Lions tour of Australia to give him some experience in Aus before the Ashes.

So far it's not gone well at all.

Also think the team selection is wild from Flintoff. Picked a huge tail starting at 7 and his 16 year old son at 6.

Dropped James Rew who's the most experienced batsman after Davies in the squad :laugh:
 
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