Gary Sobers vs Steven Smith

[DrWolverine]

What is sobers average vs top 4 of his era?

There was no vs top 4 teams of his era.
It is just Aus and Eng.

 

[Narayana]

There was no vs top 4 teams of his era.
It is just Aus and Eng.

So sobers like Bradman only played against few teams.

 

[Johan]

Why aus couldn't win away ashes since last 2 decades.

2005 — we all know what happened

2009 — England was just better that time

2013 — England was just better that time, and Bell ****ed them

2015 — Everyone bar Smith was FTB asf, and Root ****ed them

2019 — Stokes ****ed them, Archer put Smith out of Headingley with a bouncer

2023 — they got outplayed completely in the last three games

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Away ashes in Eng is always the best event of cricket.

I think Eng actually have a chance of winning in Aus this year if Aus continue to roll out spicy pitches

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Australia would have won in 2019 and 2023 if it wasn’t for bad umpiring. They still should have won anyways though.

 

[DrWolverine]

So sobers like Bradman only played against few teams.

Yes. Except Bradman averaged 99.94 and not less than one of his contemporaries.

 

[Narayana]

2005 — we all know what happened

2009 — England was just better that time

2013 — England was just better that time, and Bell ****ed them

2015 — Everyone bar Smith was FTB asf, and Root ****ed them

2019 — Stokes ****ed them, Archer put Smith out of Headingley with a bouncer

2023 — they got outplayed completely in the last three games

No last game was 80percent in favour of aus, but suddenly Eng changed the ball and it started swinging so much , and aus collapsed.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

No last game was 80percent in favour of aus, but suddenly Eng changed the ball and it started swinging so much , and aus collapsed.

Yea that ball change was ridiculous

 

[Narayana]

I think Eng actually have a chance of winning in Aus this year if Aus continue to roll out spicy pitches

Yes Atkinson has already achieved so many things within 1 year , and Archer, wood will be lethal on the current aus pitches.

 

[Johan]

Nah England doesn't have the bowling to win a series in Australia.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Yes Atkinson has already achieved so many things within 1 year , and Archer, wood will be lethal on the current aus pitches.

I don’t rate Atkinson that highly (test batting around the world is really weak atm)

I think Robinson would be unplayable on those spicy Aus pitches like Boland though. They need to pick him and Leach over Bashir.

 

[Johan]

Yes. Except Bradman averaged 99.94 and not less than one of his contemporaries.

Barrington against West Indies and Australia: 3153 @ 50.04

 

[Johan]

I don’t rate Atkinson that highly (test batting around the world is really weak atm)

I think Robinson would be unplayable on those spicy Aus pitches like Boland though. They need to pick him and Leach over Bashir.

Sam Cook is better than Robinson

 

[DrWolverine]

Ken Barrington in different countries


Gary Sobers in different countries

 

[DrWolverine]

Not saying Barrington is better batsman
But why not post the entire stats

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Barrington is another test spam beneficiary and had basically a 9 year career

Sobers was averaging 66.5 over 14 years

 

[Johan]

so Sobers averages higher in India and England while Barrington in Australia and Pakistan, and obviously New Zealand

don't really know what's that supposed to say

 

[DrWolverine]

Barrington


Sobers

 

[DrWolverine]

Barrington’s raw numbers are just stunning. One of the greatest ever and undoubtedly the most underrated

 

[Johan]

Gary's are better against Ind, Pak and England (WI is the competition for Ken in comparision), while Ken's against Australia and New Zealand.