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[smash84]

Your inability to accept Bradman continues to amaze. As does your ability to only push extra on Windies players even when talking of a RoW XI.

You called him a non factor. Are you just using words without knowing their meaning or…

He's the guy who thinks Benaud didn't include Marshall in his XI because Benaud was racist

 

[shortpitched713]

Benaud just knew that Bradman could've never stood up to the onslaught of the WI pace attack of the time.

Doubt he'd be able to do it on a cold, wet day in Stoke anyway.

 

[Johan]

Benaud just knew that Bradman could've never stood up to the onslaught of the WI pace attack of the time.

Doubt he'd be able to do it on a cold, wet day in Stoke anyway.

Gooch did it, Bradman would do it with a pinky

 

[shortpitched713]

Gooch did it, Bradman would do it with a pinky

In one innings.

Gooch and Crowe have to be the two players most overrated by a single data point. Gooch by the Headingley innings against the WI, and Crowe by the lone recommendation of Wasim Akram.

 

[Johan]

In one innings.

Gooch and Crowe have to be the two players most overrated by a single data point. Gooch by the Headingley innings against the WI, and Crowe by the lone recommendation of Wasim Akram.

Gooch has 5 tons against them, not 1.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Anyway, Ashes XI would probably win against WI anywhere but in the Caribbean because in the WI even vs great bowling WI batsmen play at a different level. See the records of: Haynes, Lara, Ws (especially Walcott), Sobers, etc at home. Ditto to the bowling.

 

[Coronis]

Ditto to the bowling.

Actually, Marshall, Ambrose, Garner, Holding and arguably Gibbs all have better away performance than home performance.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Actually, Marshall, Ambrose, Garner, Holding and arguably Gibbs all have better away performance than home performance.

You know what, you're actually right. Still they do have great home records.

 

[Coronis]

You know what, you're actually right. Still they do have great home records.

Don’t sound so surprised

 

[sayon basak]

Gooch has 5 tons against them, not 1.

Could you provide some great FC works of Gooch against some great bowlers?

 

[OverratedSanity]

In one innings.

Gooch and Crowe have to be the two players most overrated by a single data point. Gooch by the Headingley innings against the WI, and Crowe by the lone recommendation of Wasim Akram.

Crowe's data point is not that Akram rated him, it's that he was one of the best batsmen in the world across a ten year period and made some very high quality runs

 

[sayon basak]

Gooch was pretty good for 10 years as well.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Gooch was pretty good for 10 years as well.
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Pretty sure he didn’t even play for like 3 years of it

 

[sayon basak]

Pretty sure he didn’t even play for like 3 years of it

What do you mean? He played in 10 out of those 12 years (missed 83 and 84).

 

[PlayerComparisons]

What do you mean? He played in 10 out of those 12 years (missed 83 and 84).

Pretty sure he was banned for 3 years for going on the rebel tour. He missed the 82 home summer I think.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

In one innings.

Gooch and Crowe have to be the two players most overrated by a single data point. Gooch by the Headingley innings against the WI, and Crowe by the lone recommendation of Wasim Akram.

Gooch and Gower mainly get overrated because Eng haven’t produced many great players in the modern era (unlike say Aus)

Don’t think Crowe is really overrated though

 

[Johan]

he played 82, and then from 85 to 94, missed 83-84.

What do you mean? He played in 10 out of those 12 years (missed 83 and 84).

Yeah

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

 

[Johan]

Gooch and Gower mainly get overrated because Eng haven’t produced many great players in the modern era (unlike say Aus)

Don’t think Crowe is really overrated though

****** trying to do psychoanalysis for why certain people rate players, hilarious.

 

[Johan]

Two of them played in literally the flattest era of the sport, and one still couldn't score at a rate above the low '30's. No, don't rate Sutcliffe at all. Hammond, a player I very much do rate, was traumatized by Martindale and Constantine.

Not to add Hobbs and Sutcliffe played entire careers in old lbw rules, and none of us have seen Hobbs nor Sutcliffe bat, far less Barnes bowl.

Eh it was not that bad, definitely not as bad as 2000s

 

[DrWolverine]

Gooch centuries.
1980 - Croft. Holding. Roberts. Garner.
1981 - Marshall. Holding. Roberts. Garner.
1981 - Marshall. Holding. Croft. Garner.
1988 - Marshall. Patterson. Walsh. Ambrose.
1991 - Marshall. Patterson. Walsh. Ambrose.