Except you are drawing conclusions the article is not, unless you think the article is saying Flintoff is equal to Miller. The articles main purpose was evaluating series performances.
So you admit Kallis has low output for an AR secondary skill and Imran with 30 RPI even with all your minimizing does not at the end of the day.
At least two high quality match saving knocks for Imran, one against the WI quartet. Scored runs in series against Lillee in Aus and Hadlee in NZ. Won a MOS for his batting too. Ended with decent averages in most countries.
And why don't you mention Kallis feeding off WI too with his bowling and being utterly useless in the SC?
Nobody says Imran was a top 6 bat. That would be Botham
Batted 7 and higher moreso than 8, hence overall is a 6/7 bat.
Yeah except Kallis bowled far less like that in terms of workload because he couldn't sustain it.
BS that Kallis can take a specialist bowler role on a regular basis and you know that because he didn't in his career.
Nonsense. Kallis bowling is vastly overrated by the likes of you.
And Kallis is not making an ATG XI. He won't even make the second XI thanks to Hammond.
I'm not drawing conclusions from the article it's not trying to make, it was literally showing who had the most series where they impacted with both bat and ball. The numbers were plain to see and Sobers and Gilchrist (for the keepers) were well ahead of the competition. Imran had the same amount as Kallis.
I don't think either were front line operators and basically below the output and didn't match the role that Sobers played. I also think they both played the role they were supposed to and ended up being the 2nd and 3rd best all rounders of all time.
He batted 7 and lower moreso than 6, hence overall is a 7/8 bat. You do love to rewrite history.
Is it that Kallis couldn't sustain it or did the team think it best that they sustain his batting peak as long as possible? But he did bowl quite a bit at 1st and 2nd change, more than he did 3rd change. Would you say that Imran couldn't or didn't sustain it easier, the 2 years he couldn't bowl, the mini retirement and being more batsman than bowler the last couple years? It made sense to not wear down Kallis the same way the WI wore down Sobers.
Is it that Kallis's bowling is vastly over rated or is it that you need it to be seen as such. You're the one who goes onto every possible thread to say how overrated his batting and bowling is. He's one of the three players you're constantly trying to have down graded, even going onto the AR thread to say that's your intent. And two of the players you attack the most, it's to the same intent...
Is his bowling over rated or are you rating him as a front line bowler, which he isn't, while not grading Imran vs front line batsmen. I said this originally and it stands true...
In a normal or average team Kallis can be your 4th bowler or in some instances your 3rd seamer. Imran can be you no. 7 if you don't have a strong keeper batsman, and they can both fulfill those roles. If you push each down a slot to 5th bowler or no. 8, now they're above replacement value and is a plus to the team.
In an AT scenario, Kallis is strictly a 5th option and Imran a no. 8, and that's great too.
Now this last one is a bit silly. Kallis isn't making an AT team, he's a Sobers away from it. So is Imran, the Cricinfo vote was 50 - 0 for the first team. He doesn't make Wisden's either, even Martin Crowe's he's in the 2nd. Even on CW where he's rated so much higher than he is anywhere else, on the last vote for an AT attack Imran was a distant 4th and tied with Wasim.
So neither makes the first team, now you can argue that Hammond is the better fit in the 2nd team over Kallis, he's a better bat and slip, but since half the forum just spent an entire thread arguing that Hammond isn't an all rounder, that's unlikely. It's actually more likely that both of them makes the 2nd team along with Imran.
