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Warne vs Gavaskar

Warne vs Gavaskar

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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Johan said:
Probably, and the greatest bowler ever getting 3 votes is crazy, no offense to Gavaskar but I don't think anyone bar Hobbs/Bradman/Sobers should realistically beat Marshall
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Given it was solely 19th century, I will throw in Imran and Hadlee too. But yeah, Gavaskar getting 12 votes isn't bad, Marshall getting 3 is ****ing insane.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
DrWolverine said:
Malcolm Marshall’s fame and reputation and has grown much more in the last 20 years compared to the 1990s
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Yeah I was talking to my old man this week about this and he said there wasn't even really a consensus he was the best WI quick during/just after his career (at least in Australia). He reckoned that was probably because he wasn't part of the original quartet, and then later on Curtly's performances in Australia outshone him here too.
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

International 12th Man
Prince EWS said:
Yeah I was talking to my old man this week about this and he said there wasn't even really a consensus he was the best WI quick during/just after his career (at least in Australia). He reckoned that was probably because he wasn't part of the original quartet, and then later on Curtly's performances in Australia outshone him here too.
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When people talked about the best fast bowler of all time in cricket magazines (around early 1990s), the first name that popped up was Dennis Lillee. Later they were saying if Ambrose continues to play like this, he has a chance to become the greatest fast bowler.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
BazBall21 said:
But nothing whatsoever in 50% of the games. It's an impactful series but not a great one.
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Almost no batsman impacts every game they play in a series, except maybe Bradman. The impact he had in all 3 of those games and the opposition is enough for it to definitely be a Great one in my book.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
DrWolverine said:
Gavaskar second best?
Are you serious or joking?
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Oh he’s very serious.


BazBall21 said:
Exactly. Very low percentage and also ruthless to a completely unparalleled extent otherwise.
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That’s what, 27.5% of his innings below 20.

Lets see for some batsmen I think are pretty quality.. (I did my top 18 batsmen plus the other Fab 4 members - felt Pollock and Headley’s sample sizes would be low for this exercise)

Sutcliffe - 21/84 (25%)
Bradman - 22/80 (27.5%)
Hobbs - 30/102 (29.4%)
Hammond - 46/140 (32.9%)
Barrington - 45/131 (34.4%)
Hutton - 49/138 (35.5%)
Dravid - 105/286 (36.7%)
Sobers - 59/160 (36.9%)
Sangakkara - 86/233 (36.9%)
Richards - 68/182 (37.4%)
Kallis - 107/280 (38.2%)
Smith - 78/202 (38.6%)
Chappell - 59/151 (39.1%)
Ponting - 115/287 (40.1%)
Williamson - 75/186 (40.3%)
Root - 114/278 (41.0%)
Gavaskar - 88/214 (41.1%)
Border - 109/265 (41.1%)
Lara - 97/232 (41.8%)
Tendulkar - 139/329 (42.2%)
Waugh - 119/260 (45.8%)
Kohli - 96/208 (46.2%)

This was slightly weird - I did England first but forgot Root - waiting for another non Bradman player to surpass any of the English batsmen was a really long wait..
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
Almost no batsman impacts every game they play in a series, except maybe Bradman. The impact he had in all 3 of those games and the opposition is enough for it to definitely be a Great one in my book.
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Bradman had dud games too. Even in his famous 1930 series the final game was a huge flop for him. (granted, both teams only played a single innings in a rain shortened match)
 
sayon basak

sayon basak

International Captain
Wanna_Be_AB said:
i dont know about his ranking but warne being the 5th greatest cricketer of the century midway in his career is stupid... maybe after his career ended he had a case to be the top 5 cricketer but not midway
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Don't think it's As absurd as putting Gavaskar in the same tier as Bradman.
 
sayon basak

sayon basak

International Captain
Wanna_Be_AB said:
not really sure about it but Bradman got 100 votes & Gavaskar got 12 ig.. and tbf i think its good enough for Sunny to get 12 of the 500 votes
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That's what I'm saying. PFK's list is worse than ESPN's.

And there were 500 voters? Don only got 100 votes?
 
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