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**Official** 4th Test at Melbourne, 26-30 Dec 2024

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
On the balance of play, this series has really not been close overall. Even this game which was great to watch only became strangely close after a freak Bumrah spell. If Australia had lost this, we'd be saying they **** the bed. Great series to watch but sometimes, the series scoreline doesn't really convey the gap between the sides and I think this is one of those. India have been rank for the most part.
In many ways, this 3-1 (assuming Sydney game goes by form) will be the opposite of the 3-1 loss in England we had in 2018. There, the games were far closer and we were in the games far longer than the scoreline shows. Here its the opposite, somehow. :laugh:

But seriously, I do think we played really well on days 1, 3 and 4 here. Maybe didn't finish the job a couple of times but we have not been hopeless this test, far from it. It was just dumb batting in the last session that has cost us this test ultimately, inspite of the various mistakes prior to that.
 

reyrey

U19 Captain
yep okay i rechecked the stats - fast bowlers only. thanks.

1. Mcgrath
2. Bumrah
3. Cummins
4. Hadlee
5. Ambrose

the home bowlers top 2- obviously Mcgrath and Cummins now. These two are elite home bowlers, the rest of home bowlers are significantly behind IMO. I think 3rd best is Lillee and then Mcdermott/Hazlewood.

The visiting bowlers are Bumrah, Hadlee and Ambrose the top 3.

This seems fair.

Australia will run into problems in Tests once Cummins retires in a few years...generational talents, well they take a long time to emerge.

India will run into major strife once Bumrah retires in 4-5 years also.
Ambrose bowled to the strongest batting line ups. He should be number 1. Taking the batting line ups they would have bowled to into consideration I'd rank them like this.

Ambrose
Bumrah
Hadlee
McGrath
Cummins
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
In many ways, this 3-1 (assuming Sydney game goes by form) will be the opposite of the 3-1 loss in England we had in 2018. There, the games were far closer and we were in the games far longer than the scoreline shows. Here its the opposite, somehow. :laugh:

But seriously, I do think we played really well on days 1, 3 and 4 here. Maybe didn't finish the job a couple of times but we have not been hopeless this test, far from it. It was just dumb batting in the last session that has cost us this test ultimately, inspite of the various mistakes prior to that.
@TheJediBrah
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year

Simon Taufel, a renowned former umpire from Australia, endorsed the decision.

"The third umpire did make the correct decision in the end. With the technology protocols, we do have a hierarchy of redundancy, and the umpire sees a clear deflection off the bat; there is no need to go any further and use any other form of technology to prove the case."
I wonder what he was thinking though? He's 3rd ump in a crucial test of a big series and this decision is going to decide the match. The on field decision is not out and then the 3rd ump sees the big deflection. You could excuse him thinking I'll just check snicko to make double sure and it shows nothing. I wonder if he was sweating bricks at that moment. So it was ballsy to stick with his decision to over turn
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I wonder what he was thinking though? He's 3rd ump in a crucial test of a big series and this decision is going to decide the match. The on field decision is not out and then the 3rd ump sees the big deflection. You could excuse him thinking I'll just check snicko to make double sure and it shows nothing. I wonder if he was sweating bricks at that moment. So it was ballsy to stick with his decision to over turn
This is precisely why you have fixed, written protocols that you always follow, so you take that out of it as much as possible. I'd be curious to see what the exact wording of the protocols are.
 

halba

International Debutant
Ambrose bowled to the strongest batting line ups. He should be number 1. Taking the batting line ups they would have bowled to into consideration I'd rank them like this.

Ambrose
Bumrah
Hadlee
McGrath
Cummins
Good post. .if u adjust to the batting lineups. Ambrose bowled to the top tier aus batting lineup of the 90s. He was incredible.

Mcgrath never bowled to his own batting lineup, usually touring weak batting lineups like West Indies, SL, India, ENG and Pakistan which were really weak in the 90s and 2000s.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Best bowlers ever in Australia grounds only.

1. Glenn Mcgrath
2. Jasprit Bumrah
3. Pat Cummins
4. Curtly Ambrose.

anyone agree? These are the top 4 IMHO.
Happy to say that this is roughly right if we're talking about pace bowlers only and restrict it to bowlers I've seen.
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
This is precisely why you have fixed, written protocols that you always follow, so you take that out of it as much as possible. I'd be curious to see what the exact wording of the protocols are.
True, it would. But I mean Taufel pretty much gives an indication, and I wasn't aware of that. You'd expect the 3rd ump would know them and give it out. Perhaps it indicates some pressure he was under and wanted the comfort of technology to back up what he was seeing - and then it showed nothing.
 

TimAngas

State Vice-Captain
Rohit and Kohli not putting in a great showing is not totally unexpected to be honest but I am really disappointed in Pant this series, both in terms of form and temperament. Hopefully he can get back to his pre-injury best.
 

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