kyear2
International Coach
I have him above Garner, just below Lillee at 10th.
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Jasprit Bumrah vs Bill O’Reilly
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sayon basak
International Vice-Captain
@DrWolverine what are your takes on Mankad?
kyear2
International Coach
You also don't think keeping is important so that's no surprise.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Like you don't think playing Test matches are important??
kyear2
International Coach
Like how you use context when it suits your purposes.
O'Reilly's ranking is as much influenced by FC cricket as Barry's is.
Both of them are seen and rated as ATGs, you just choose just to only acknowledge one.
Not to add the hypocritical nature of your assessment of Barry, voting him for the SA all time team doesn't require tests as well?
Coronis
International Coach
Hutton, Compton, Nourse also names worth mentioning probably.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Not unlike you, who will go to great lengths fawning over specialists and dunking on Imran only to rank Sobers over Bradman??? O'Reilly had an illustrious though short career, which is as long as Barry could had played had SA weren't banned. And he outperformed others spectacularly like non before or by spinners and pitches, since.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Mankad didn't played with him post War I believe. It was Hutton, Compton, May but no Hammond in 52. He played in the 30s iirc
Coronis
International Coach
Um, no, not really.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Lack of video analysis did wonders for the spinners of the ancient past.
Modern day spinners get found out within a year or two and revert to the mean.
O'Reilly is not even close to Warne and Murali.
Modern day spinners get found out within a year or two and revert to the mean.
O'Reilly is not even close to Warne and Murali.
Coronis
International Coach
That would be very impressive considering his test debut was 1946.
kyear2
International Coach
19 tests vs England has him rated as a top 3 spinner of all time and no. 1 for some?
Really?
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
As I previously stated, IIRC. Which I certainly didn't.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Always remember, the ratio of Barry's and O'Reilly's Test matches is smaller than that of between O'Reilly's and Anderson's
kyear2
International Coach
We're back to this bullshit, which you do when you have nothing else to resort to.
I've answered you on this before with regards to Sobers and Bradman so not even remotely doing that again.
With regards to dunking in Imran, what I will say is that without Sobers's bowling he's still a top 4 or 5 batsman of all time and in that top tier of best after Bradman and an ATG slip fielder who walks into an all time XI.
Without his batting, Imran doesn't. I don't dunk on anyone.
And as for votes as you like to keep bringing up despite being explained countless times, you voted Dhoni I believe among the 4 best keeper batsmen of all time. Not to add tried to create a narrative that Flower is possibly the GOAT there.
kyear2
International Coach
DRS has also been a huge bump for modern spinners.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Dude, you are one to take a bullshit spat on me over wicketkeepers...... You can go ahead and field your Oldfields and Evans, but stating that Pant will start ahead of them in any team at the modern game is but a fact.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Not for Warne or Murali.