Kapil Dev vs Allan Donald

[PlayerComparisons]

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[kyear2]

Allan Donald

 

[DrWolverine]

I do not really see any argument for Kapil over Donald

 

[kyear2]

I do not really see any argument for Kapil over Donald

Yeah, don't know what's trying to be proven here.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

We need @Pap Finn Keighl ‘s opinion on this

 

[_00_deathscar]

We need @Pap Finn Keighl ‘s opinion on this

His opinions on Pap smears might be more relevant than his stuff on cricket

 

[kyear2]

His opinions on Pap smears might be more relevant than his stuff on cricket

Really is

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

We need @Pap Finn Keighl ‘s opinion on this

Here it is.

If we take last 50 years, there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.( Akram, Hadlee, Marshall, Murali, Steyn, Lillee, Mcgrath and Warne ) Even though, Donald could have been rated among this elite 8 if he was allowed a full career. Unfortunately, he lost few years in the beginning.

Kapil Dev is probably the greatest allrounder of last 50 years.( Mainly due to absence of Procter) he was a consistent matchwinner with both bat and ball. Only other cricketer in the same category during this period is Botham. Botham was magnificent in the first half of the career, but when you asses the over all career, Kapil Dev was more consistent. Overall Kapil was better bowler, and almost equal as batsmen. Only thing that favors Botham is number of 100s, other than that their output with bat is more or less the same. Add to that Kapil played for an inferior team with no support and in unfavorable conditions. And he was the most aggressive batsman of his generation. Did extremely well against best team in the world also.
Richard Hadlee and Imran not out Khan were better cricketers, but their batting was significantly inferior to Kapil and Botham.

Overall Kapil Dev is the only AR with consistent quality in last 50 years.
While there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.. So Kapil > Donald.
Both are underrated.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Funny, People here think Imran was consistent and Kapil was Hit or Miss.

Imran was not a quality bowler after 1988.
Imran took more than 5 innings on average to score a 40 until then. Kapil scored a 40 in every 3.5 innings. Even better than Botham in that regard.

 

[kyear2]

Here it is.

If we take last 50 years, there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.( Akram, Hadlee, Marshall, Murali, Steyn, Lillee, Mcgrath and Warne ) Even though, Donald could have been rated among this elite 8 if he was allowed a full career. Unfortunately, he lost few years in the beginning.

Kapil Dev is probably the greatest allrounder of last 50 years.( Mainly due to absence of Procter) he was a consistent matchwinner with both bat and ball. Only other cricketer in the same category during this period is Botham. Botham was magnificent in the first half of the career, but when you asses the over all career, Kapil Dev was more consistent. Overall Kapil was better bowler, and almost equal as batsmen. Only thing that favors Botham is number of 100s, other than that their output with bat is more or less the same. Add to that Kapil played for an inferior team with no support and in unfavorable conditions. And he was the most aggressive batsman of his generation. Did extremely well against best team in the world also.
Richard Hadlee and Imran not out Khan were better cricketers, but their batting was significantly inferior to Kapil and Botham.

Overall Kapil Dev is the only AR with consistent quality in last 50 years.
While there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.. So Kapil > Donald.
Both are underrated.

And this is why rating players based on AR rankings is perilous, and crazy.

 

[Johan]

Funny, People here think Imran was consistent and Kapil was Hit or Miss.

Imran was not a quality bowler after 1988.
Imran took more than 5 innings on average to score a 40 until then. Kapil scored a 40 in every 3.5 innings. Even better than Botham in that regard.

Imran averages 22 with the ball, Kapil 29, no contest

 

[DrWolverine]

Here it is.

If we take last 50 years, there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.( Akram, Hadlee, Marshall, Murali, Steyn, Lillee, Mcgrath and Warne )

Allan Donald was better in my opinion.

Kapil Dev is probably the greatest allrounder of last 50 years.

Imran. Botham. Kallis.

I would even pick the legendary Hadlee ahead of him. Even if his batting was not as good as Kapil, he more than made up with his bowling.

 

[Coronis]

Here it is.

If we take last 50 years, there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.( Akram, Hadlee, Marshall, Murali, Steyn, Lillee, Mcgrath and Warne ) Even though, Donald could have been rated among this elite 8 if he was allowed a full career. Unfortunately, he lost few years in the beginning.

Kapil Dev is probably the greatest allrounder of last 50 years.( Mainly due to absence of Procter) he was a consistent matchwinner with both bat and ball. Only other cricketer in the same category during this period is Botham. Botham was magnificent in the first half of the career, but when you asses the over all career, Kapil Dev was more consistent. Overall Kapil was better bowler, and almost equal as batsmen. Only thing that favors Botham is number of 100s, other than that their output with bat is more or less the same. Add to that Kapil played for an inferior team with no support and in unfavorable conditions. And he was the most aggressive batsman of his generation. Did extremely well against best team in the world also.
Richard Hadlee and Imran not out Khan were better cricketers, but their batting was significantly inferior to Kapil and Botham.

Overall Kapil Dev is the only AR with consistent quality in last 50 years.
While there are 8 greater bowlers than Donald.. So Kapil > Donald.
Both are underrated.

If we take the last 100 years Don Bradman is probably the best batsman and Marshall is probably the best bowler. Therefore Bradman ~ Marshall. Hard to pick.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Imran averages 22 with the ball, Kapil 29, no contest

Bowling
Hadlee > Imran > Kapil > Botham

Batting
Botham > Kapil > Imran > Hadlee

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

If we take the last 100 years Don Bradman is probably the best batsman and Marshall is probably the best bowler. Therefore Bradman ~ Marshall. Hard to pick.

Bradman easily the best batsman. WG played before 1924.

 

[Coronis]

Bradman easily the best batsman. WG played before 1924.

whoosh

Just makes me feel mean.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

And this is why rating players based on AR rankings is perilous, and crazy.

You dont have to Worry about Donald when your team is bowling, but you have to worry about Kapil all the time... He was a far greater fielder also. ( thats why India won 1983 WC ask Zimbabwe or Viv )

 

[Migara]

Kapil Dev is probably the greatest allrounder of last 50 years.

No.

Imran, Sobers, Hadlee, Kallis, Gilchrist, Sangakkara, Pollock are ahead of him as AR in last 50 years.

 

[DrWolverine]

Wicket keepers are not all rounders

 

[Migara]

Wicket keepers are not all rounders

You can argue it till cows come home. If a player qualifies for a team with any of his skills alone, then that is an all rounder. You may have a different view point, but that is how I look at it.