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Unpopular Cricket Opinions

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Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
sayon basak said:
Unpopular opinion:- Earth is actually the satellite of the Moon, not the other way around.
(Not related to cricket, but both looks like cricket balls anyway)
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Well the Moon is big enough such that the barycentre - the centre of mass around which both orbit - is closer to the Earth's crust rather than its core.
 
Chubb

Chubb

International Regular
This might not be an unpopular opinion but I don’t really want to start posting in the sub forum for Aus-Ind.

You should never criticise a batsman for getting a golden duck unless they do something manifestly stupid/reckless. I’ve noticed some cricket journos are including Smith in criticism of the Aussie top order in Perth and I really don’t think it is fair. Any batsman can get a golden duck whatever form they are in. It’s just how cricket is.

Smiths form is a concern for Aus but you simply cannot tell what shape he is in off a golden duck.
 
GoodAreasShane

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Adders said:
Too many Coopers by GAS last night I think.........bizarre posting.
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Putting aside anything else, I stand behind my general view of anyone supporting the bans being completely and utterly wrong 100%. Absolute electric chair for a parking ticket type stuff

Credit for getting my preferred beer choice right though
 
the big bambino

the big bambino

International Captain
Shady Slim said:
i think it personally did, and i would like to think i of all people have an outsized natural sense of justice. i agree that CA should've been taken to task for letting that culture foment, but there's just something to me which is so icky about bringing sandpaper onto the pitch to alter the condition of the ball, which feels to me personally just, dirtier than the murray mints, heck dirtier than afridi taking a bite
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I can't share where one form of cheating is dirtier than the other, but I think your analogies underscore the overreaction to sandpapergate. The Afridi incident was just so gormlessly funny but he still copped a deserved penalty. The contrast with Murray mints is even starker. Eng basically got away with it without censure. I think Tresco even had a jokey brag about it in his book.

Now contrast that with the punishment for Smith and Warner for the same transgression. It's wildly unfair. You don't even need to compare cases - what is the usual sanction for such actions? Anything more than the proscribed penalty is unfair.
 
Adders

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
GoodAreasShane said:
Putting aside anything else, I stand behind my general view of anyone supporting the bans being completely and utterly wrong 100%. Absolute electric chair for a parking ticket type stuff

Credit for getting my preferred beer choice right though
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I agree with you on the bans tbh and you could have easily put up a credible argument against them instead of unnecessarily ripping into Shady for posting a perfectly reasonable (unpopular) opinion.

You're from Adelaide right......do you ***** down there drink anything else? Decent drop though tbf.
 
GoodAreasShane

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Adders said:
I agree with you on the bans tbh and you could have easily put up a credible argument against them instead of unnecessarily ripping into Shady for posting a perfectly reasonable (unpopular) opinion.

You're from Adelaide right......do you ***** down there drink anything else? Decent drop though tbf.
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I don't think it is a reasonable opinion though, the way in which CA dealt with the situation being unequivocally atrocious is absolutely a hill I would die on, but all in all it is just all opinion though so I suppose should just move on

A few people drink West End here (they are the long term SACA naming rights sponsor after all), but I have always preferred Coopers honestly. Still very much owned and made here in South Australia too which is nice
 
Adders

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
For what it's worth I totally agree the fallout and bans from sandpapergate were way over the top and we all know that happens anywhere else the players are getting a slap on the wrist at best.

BUT!! this was a perfect storm that's been brewing for Aus cricket for ages and almost had to happen. Australia has a nationwide belief that their cricketers **** don't stink and they are put on a pedestal as the moral standard for how the game should be played.......hard but fair......we know where the line is etc. Only the dirty Poms, Indians and Pakistanis would stoop to ball tampering and pitch doctoring.

It's all bollocks and always has been. Even your PM got involved in this such was the national embarrassment that your esteemed cricket team got caught red handed doing what the rest of the world knows goes on everywhere.

So yes it was harsh on Smith, Warner and Bancroft etc but afaic your cricketing culture brought it on themselves.
 
Daemon

Daemon

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the big bambino said:
I can't share where one form of cheating is dirtier than the other, but I think your analogies underscore the overreaction to sandpapergate. The Afridi incident was just so gormlessly funny but he still copped a deserved penalty. The contrast with Murray mints is even starker. Eng basically got away with it without censure. I think Tresco even had a jokey brag about it in his book.

Now contrast that with the punishment for Smith and Warner for the same transgression. It's wildly unfair. You don't even need to compare cases - what is the usual sanction for such actions? Anything more than the proscribed penalty is unfair.
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I guess shady’s point is it’s like speeding 20 over the limit vs 100

Out here at least the latter gets you a reckless driving charge while the former may only get you a warning

I do think the punishment deserved to be way more severe than the 5 run penalty or whatever but a 1 year ban is pretty crazy
 
the big bambino

the big bambino

International Captain
Daemon said:
I guess shady’s point is it’s like speeding 20 over the limit vs 100

Out here at least the latter gets you a reckless driving charge while the former may only get you a warning

I do think the punishment deserved to be way more severe than the 5 run penalty or whatever but a 1 year ban is pretty crazy
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But its not an objective comparison that can be objectively measured like speed. (Personally I think murray mints is worse as it may have decided a series of matches). If anything I think you could say they "all broke the speed limit" they were just driving different cars.
 
GoodAreasShane

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Adders said:
For what it's worth I totally agree the fallout and bans from sandpapergate were way over the top and we all know that happens anywhere else the players are getting a slap on the wrist at best.

BUT!! this was a perfect storm that's been brewing for Aus cricket for ages and almost had to happen. Australia has a nationwide belief that their cricketers **** don't stink and they are put on a pedestal as the moral standard for how the game should be played.......hard but fair......we know where the line is etc. Only the dirty Poms, Indians and Pakistanis would stoop to ball tampering and pitch doctoring.

It's all bollocks and always has been. Even your PM got involved in this such was the national embarrassment that your esteemed cricket team got caught red handed doing what the rest of the world knows goes on everywhere.

So yes it was harsh on Smith, Warner and Bancroft etc but afaic your cricketing culture brought it on themselves.
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Turnbull got involved because he wanted a distraction from how poorly his own government was travelling at around that time, pure political opportunism. Especially considering he was by far and away the most high society and least sport interested PM Australia has had in my lifetime, maybe ever in the history of this country

And as for the Australian cricketers put on a pedestal thing, if anything I would say the opposite was going on. It's worth remembering this came in the aftermath of the pay dispute the previous off season where CA wanted to scrap the revenue sharing model, which would have the effect of reducing the amount of money in the domestic game to the benefit those in the national setup. Now then the CA contracted players (through the ACA, the players association) rightly rejected this deal, recognising the need to have a strong domestic scene to insure there were the players coming through who could make the step up, only for the CA chairman of the time to make utterly false and blatantly inflammatory remarks why he tried to paint the issue as the international players being greedy. Honestly that one still absolutely disgusts me to this day
 
Adders

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
I work with a bloke that to this day will not watch Australia play cricket while Steve Smith is part of the set up. I had a conversation with him about it a while back and said you know all teams ball tamper to some degree......his reply was not us, it's Un Australian.

Conversation over, you can't argue with that level of arrogance and stupidity.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think this attitude was pretty widespread to the incident (whipped up no doubt by the press and Turnbull) and was the reason CA went full war crime penalties (covering their own asses in the process)
 
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