Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

[Johan]

The convo is much more after Gilly for me.

De Villiers

 

[capt_Luffy]

De Villiers

Walcott as well

 

[Johan]

Walcott as well

Nah He's in the sanga category, average falls hard when Keeper

 

[capt_Luffy]

Nah He's in the sanga category, average falls hard when Keeper

ABD has a very small sample size though for keeping. Smh missed out on the SA ATXI for John Waite!!!!

 

[Johan]

ABD has a very small sample size though for keeping. Smh missed out on the SA ATXI for John Waite!!!!

24 games, averages 57 as a keeper, 7 hundreds etc, **** Boucher fr

 

[DrWolverine]

Everyone who saw Flower doesn't rate him much, Gilly just gives you more, he averages 47 to Flower's 51,

Flower averages 53.7 as a wicket keeper.

strikes at Sehwag esque speeds, it's really a no brainer.

That’s partly because he played for the most successful team in cricket history with Top 3 fast bowler, Top 2 spinner, Top 10 opener, Top 15 batsman and the fastest bowler among others.

I rate Flower much higher because he played in a very weak team where he was the only world class cricketer and the next best batsman averaged half of him.

 

[DrWolverine]

ABD has a very small sample size though for keeping.

ABD was wk for just 24 out of 115 tests he played.

 

[kyear2]

Flower averages 53.7 as a wicket keeper.





That’s partly because he played for the most successful team in cricket history with Top 3 fast bowler, Top 2 spinner, Top 10 opener, Top 15 batsman and the fastest bowler among others.

I rate Flower much higher because he played in a very weak team where he was the only world class cricketer and the next best batsman averaged half of him.

What does any of that have to do with his wicket-keeping skill?

 

[DrWolverine]

Andy’s wicket keeping skills are good

Andy able to average 53 as a wk despite having many disadvantages is a testament to his batting ability

 

[kyear2]

Andy’s wicket keeping skills are good

Andy able to average 53 as a wk despite having many disadvantages is a testament to his batting ability

Why has he never made an All Time XI, never mentioned as a contender for one. Never mentioned in discussions for greatest keeper batsmen.

The issue that I have with this, as I've said before, is the notion that we're discovering something that somehow everyone else has missed.

For the record I don't think Boucher was that special either, so that's my general perception of ratings.

 

[slcricfan1]

What does any of that have to do with his wicket-keeping skill?

Which contemporary keeper do you feel is similar to Andy Flower?

 

[Prince EWS]

Which contemporary keeper do you feel is similar to Andy Flower?

Devon Conway

 

[subshakerz]

I was listening to Jarrod Kimber who said Flower was a better keeper than Gilly. Is that true? I have no recollection.

 

[slcricfan1]

Devon Conway

Wow lol, if thats true it does make it interesting

 

[DrWolverine]

I was listening to Jarrod Kimber who said Flower was a better keeper than Gilly. Is that true? I have no recollection.

I am fairly certain none of us here throughly analysed Flower or Gilly for their keeping. As far as I remember, both were were not bad keepers. That’s about it. We watched Adam Gilchrist for his destructive ability and Andy Flower for keeping the hopes of his team alive.

 

[OverratedSanity]

People are allowed to think Flower was a good keeper if they want but I find it funny how people assume there's no one here who actually remembers how good/bad his keeping was. I , @Prince EWS and a few others remember his keeping not being great and have said so.

You can disagree if you want but I find it extremely obnoxious when you ***** go "I dont remember anything about his keeping, therefore it was good because if it was bad I'd have remembered it and people who think his keeping was bad don't remember his keeping either". Like, what the **** kind of brain breaking logic is that lmao. Maybe just accept people have different opinions of his keeping ffs.

 

[kyear2]

I was listening to Jarrod Kimber who said Flower was a better keeper than Gilly. Is that true? I have no recollection.

God no.

 

[kyear2]

I am fairly certain none of us here throughly analysed Flower or Gilly for their keeping. As far as I remember, both were were not bad keepers. That’s about it. We watched Adam Gilchrist for his destructive ability and Andy Flower for keeping the hopes of his team alive.

No, I actually watched Gilly for his keeping. The same way I watched Healy, and Dujon, Jayawardene and Russell etc etc...