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[kyear2]

Warne is closer to Murali than McGrath and Imran are; but I think they have a clear difference in between. Being a lone wolf is much more difficult to begin with and no one carried a team on their back quite like Murali. WPM, I will say, is definitely an indicator of increased value when he a lead of 3 runs in average to begin with. It's kinda close, but not really. More like Hobbs and Hutton or McGrath and Steyn. Overall, won't take Warner in mine really as simply don't think his batting is anywhere close to be a big enough factor for closing that gap.

Is there a gap though?

I personally don't think there is.

Also don't see a gap between Hobbs and Hutton either.

 

[kyear2]

Anyone who is not biased

Biased how?

The primary job is wicketkeeper.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Is there a gap though?

I personally don't think there is.

Also don't see a gap between Hobbs and Hutton either.

I see a gap.

 

[subshakerz]

Murali is just a better bowler than Warne. More destructive, best ever at home and can carry an attack on his shoulder with a ridiculous WPM. Enough that Warne's batting is not a big factor anymore imho.

Warne is better. More adaptable, less defensive and proven in Australia.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Warne is better. More adaptable, less defensive and proven in Australia.

You mean proven in *checks notes* his home???? Where tf he adapted away you think Murali couldn't had? Don't think, even adjusting for home conditions, we are comparing the home GoAT to someone merely Great at home, and they have similar away record.

 

[subshakerz]

You mean proven in *checks notes* his home???? Where tf he adapted away you think Murali couldn't had? Don't think, even adjusting for home conditions, we are comparing the home GoAT to someone merely Great at home, and they have similar away record.

Honestly I think Warne was every bit as capable of matching Murali in SL if he had a home career there. But I am not sure if Murali could have succeeded in Australia.

They both sucked in India. But Australia is a big hole for Murali.

 

[Johan]

Imran at home was an even bigger monster than Murali imo

 

[capt_Luffy]

Honestly I think Warne was every bit as capable of matching Murali in SL if he had a home career there. But I am not sure if Murali could have succeeded in Australia.

They both sucked in India. But Australia is a big hole for Murali.

I have explained Murali in Australia many times previously, no point doing so again.

I also disagree that Warne could had matched Murali at home or Murali couldn't succeed in Australia.

 

[DrWolverine]

Murali’s home record is unparalleled

The sheer volume of wickets is simply unbelievable

73 Tests
134 innings
493 wickets
Average of 19.56
Economy rate of 2.30
Strike rate of 50
45 5-Fer
15 10WPM

 

[capt_Luffy]

Imran at home was an even bigger monster than Murali imo

Tampering will always be an issue for him.

 

[Johan]

Tampering will always be an issue for him.

don't really know how to refute that lol, only can base my opinion on stats.

 

[DrWolverine]

Imran at home was an even bigger monster than Murali imo

Imran has a great record too.
163 wickets at an average of 19.

Murali has 495 wickets at home. That’s more than 3x of what Imran has taken.

The sheer volume of wickets Murali has at home is just mind blowing

 

[capt_Luffy]

don't really know how to refute that lol, only can base my opinion on stats.

Just some context. Khan is no. 2 for me as well at home.

 

[Johan]

Imran has a great record too.
163 wickets at an average of 19.

Murali has 495 wickets at home. That’s more than 3x of what Imran has taken.

The sheer volume of wickets Murali has at home is just mind blowing

Remove the Minnows for both (Zimbabwe and Bangladesh for Murali and Lanka for Imran) and I'm pretty sure Imran would've significnantly better average and strike rate.

 

[DrWolverine]

Average of less than 21 at home
Minimum : 150 wickets

 

[DrWolverine]

Murali at home(excluding Bang & Zim)
59 Tests
106 innings
372 wickets
Avg of 22.22
ER of 2.38
SR of 55
32 5-Fer
10 10WPM

Still very impressive

 

[Johan]

Rabada's home strike rate...

 

[DrWolverine]

Rabada's home strike rate...

Freak

 

[sayon basak]

Tampering will always be an issue for him.

Sounds like Sosa and McGwire in the steroid era.

 

[kyear2]

I see a gap.

You want to see a gap.