Dale Steyn vs Viv Richards

[subshakerz]

That being said, Marshall, McGrath, Imran, Smith all have greater claims than Viv, especially the first 3.

Viv is greater than all of them.

The only one with a bigger claim to greatness the past 40 years is Sachin.

Botham > Tendulkar but also Viv > Imran is ludicrous but quintessentially English.

Imran is technically a better cricketer than Viv sure, but Viv in terms of greatness slightly ahead.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Viv is greater than all of them.

The only one with a bigger claim to greatness the past 40 years is Sachin.

Imran and Marshall too

 

[DrWolverine]

In terms of stature and aura, only Sachin Tendulkar was bigger than Viv Richards in the last 50 years.

 

[DrWolverine]

Imran and Marshall too

In an all time team Marshall is probably the first name that will be picked after Bradman & Sobers but his fame was not even close to Viv

 

[capt_Luffy]

In terms of stature and aura, only Sachin Tendulkar was bigger than Viv Richards in the last 50 years.

Imran close imo

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Last 50 years

1. Procter
2. Gavaskar
3. Hadlee
4. Sachin
5. Viv
6. Imran
7. Akram
8. Marshall
9. Lara
10. Murali
11. Kapil
12. G.Pollock
13. Botham
14. Steyn
15. Lillee
16.Gilly
17. Mcgrath
18. Smith
19. Warne
20. Kallis
21. B.Richards
22. Donald
23. Chappell
24. Ambrose
25. Ponting
26. Border
27. Sanga
28. Waqar
29. S.Pollock
30. Waugh
31 Holding
32. Garner
33. Miandad

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Viv is better than Kallis, Tendulkar, Marshall and McGrath?

Hadlee was better than all of them. (And this is being honest - not a random Kiwi)

 

[kyear2]

In an all time team Marshall is probably the first name that will be picked after Bradman & Sobers but his fame was not even close to Viv

I fully agree with the first part, he's the 3rd name on the sheet.

So from that perspective, I don't see where fame even comes into it.

Don't get me wrong, Viv also makes the list, but fame isn't going to be the reason why.

 

[Slifer]

In an all time team Marshall is probably the first name that will be picked after Bradman & Sobers but his fame was not even close to Viv

I'd think it would be Bradman, Sobers, Gilchrist then the rest. Then again, the purists seem to prefer Knott. Either way, i usually see those two firsthand second the Sachin and Warne.

 

[kyear2]

I'd think it would be Bradman, Sobers, Gilchrist then the rest. Then again, the purists seem to prefer Knott. Either way, i usually see those two firsthand second the Sachin and Warne.

You would choose your wicketkeeper before your no. 1 pacer?

Yes, there's a bigger gap between Gilly and Knott, but there are some who would prefer Knott.

In any event, even with the gap, I would take my opening bowler over the wicketkeeper bat, especially with Bradman and Garry being the first two picks.

 

[Slifer]

No maybe I misspoke. What i meant to say is i usually see Gilchrist plus Don and Gary in most teams.

 

[Prince EWS]

You would choose your wicketkeeper before your no. 1 pacer?

Yes, there's a bigger gap between Gilly and Knott, but there are some who would prefer Knott.

In any event, even with the gap, I would take my opening bowler over the wicketkeeper bat, especially with Bradman and Garry being the first two picks.

I'd definitely rather swap Marshall or McGrath out for Hadlee than Gilchrist out for Knott. Yes opening the bowling is more important than keeping and batting seven, but there's a massive difference between Gilchrist and the next best WKB that just doesn't exist between the top few quicks.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I'd think it would be Bradman, Sobers, Gilchrist then the rest. Then again, the purists seem to prefer Knott. Either way, i usually see those two firsthand second the Sachin and Warne.

Murali over Warner really.

 

[DrWolverine]

Murali over Warner really.

Obviously

I will choose Murali over Warne as well

 

[Johan]

Murali over Warner really.

 

[kyear2]

I'd definitely rather swap Marshall or McGrath out for Hadlee than Gilchrist out for Knott. Yes opening the bowling is more important than keeping and batting seven, but there's a massive difference between Gilchrist and the next best WKB that just doesn't exist between the top few quicks.

I acknowledged that the gap is bigger. You're also factoring in what's more important though, imo.

That's also not even considering if, with the ridiculous line up of avengers this team has, if the better call isn't the best keeper.

And re quality, yes pigeon is close, but no one brings the combination that Marshal brings... Ability to swing it both ways, express pace, enforcer, home and away dominance, yeah. Yeah for me that's the 3rd name of the sheet with the argument for 2nd.

 

[Coronis]

Nah I think PEWS is right here.

Looking at one of your former team lists…

which team looks better to you?

Hutton
Richards
Bradman
Richards
Tendulkar
Sobers
Gilchrist+
Imran
Hadlee/Steyn/Ambrose
Warne
McGrath

or

Hutton
Richards
Bradman
Richards
Tendulkar
Sobers
Knott+
Imran
Marshall
Warne
McGrath

 

[capt_Luffy]

Nah I think PEWS is right here.

Looking at one of your former team lists…

which team looks better to you?

Hutton
Richards
Bradman
Richards
Tendulkar
Sobers
Gilchrist+
Imran
Hadlee/Steyn/Ambrose
Warne
McGrath

or

Hutton
Richards
Bradman
Richards
Tendulkar
Sobers
Knott+
Imran
Marshall
Warne
McGrath

The one which will have Jack ****ing Hobbs

 

[ataraxia]

I'd definitely rather swap Marshall or McGrath out for Hadlee than Gilchrist out for Knott. Yes opening the bowling is more important than keeping and batting seven, but there's a massive difference between Gilchrist and the next best WKB that just doesn't exist between the top few quicks.

Not entirely true tbh. The gulf in batting quality between Gilchrist and Knott is similar to that between Imran and McGrath.

 

[Coronis]

The one which will have Jack ****ing Hobbs

I’m basing it off kyear’s own team.