Bradman scored high enough to not being close to that lot. And then like, Hammond shan't Belong in the next tier. He had his first peak when Australia actually had really poor bowling.
I said both failed against Hadlee in NZ AND that Gavaskar had one good series there. Not necessarily vs them. Or atleast that's what I meant.
Sure on NZ but no fowl on Viv.
I disagree that it was a decent attack and I disagree that Gavaskar's record in New Zealand is enough to give him any real weight against Richards.
Sunny in 79 a tad bit better, for that 221.
Gavaskar didn't score in the game where Hadlee took wickets in that series. Hadlee took 1 wicket in the whole match when Gavaskar made 70. Hadlee was absent when Gavaskar made a hundred.
And I disagree that I asked to use it to give wait over Richards. I just stated it out. And I disagree that Chatfield was better than Collinge.
Yeah, in the innings he actually ran through he was injured. Didn't bat. Hadlee dismissed him for 72 as well.
Hadlee at that point was just a regular pacer, no? Only really refined himself into classic seam, later?
Yeah. He was raw in the first 4 years of his career. Could have a day out but inconsistent.
Imagine thinking that series gives Sunny some edge over Viv.
Sobers on Gavaskar: In later years, I saw Sunil Gavaskar come to the West Indies in 1971 and do very well, but you wouldn't call him a great in those days because you did have flash-in-the-pan cricketers. However he went on to become a great player in the true sense of greatness. From what I have seen he would have to be the best Indian batsman there has been, because he played in all types of conditions and made a lot of his runs outside of India. Sachin Tendulkar would obviously push him close.
Probably Holding. I’ve already established myself and am doing fine against the pace attack. Its just another pace bowler. The spin is completely different.
Nah I’ll rate Richards 1980 slightly ahead because that was a very low scoring series where he was the only massive(really massive) difference between the teams, and WI won an away series on mostly back of his achievements(it was a very bowler friendly series). I think Viv achieved slightly greater heights in England given his 1976 ATG tour to England really outdoes anything Gavaskar did in Pak, and then he had another great tour in England vs peak Botham and Willis(1980), and then one more good one(1991), was even decent in 1984. So a big sample size. Gavaskar in 1978 had a big series, which was brilliant, but on flattish tracks when Immy was not a threat(Sarfaraz was the main threat, perhaps Viv in England in 1980 level given Viv faced a clearly better attack in ATG Botham and Willis). In 1982, he was legitimately great(but short of Viv 1976 England level, who just brutalised Willis/Underwood/Snow/Greig). So for some small reasons, Viv’s away record is better is my opinion, tho I rate Gavaskar closer to what you do than most here.
Sorry, but I’m not sure why you’re trying to make an issue of someone rating Bradman in a seperate tier to all other batsmen. Would it have pleased you if there were more
According to him basically, the difference in Bradman's and Sobers' batting and of Sobers' and Lara's is the same. That's what I disagree with, not for the lines but what he meant by that.
I would still place the 79 England higher for that 221, but the rest I agree with. I really meant around equal. Also, I would rate Gavaskar slightly higher at home over Viv.