LangleyburyCCPlayer
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On a serious note, I think a lot of coaches and selectors if they were in charge of England would use Root as a frontline spinner if Stokes is not around, but the current England setup are very keen on Bashir
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On a serious note, I think a lot of coaches and selectors if they were in charge of England would use Root as a frontline spinner if Stokes is not around, but the current England setup are very keen on Bashir
I have Kallis 14th and Wasim 11th, so yeah, way closer than you do. So Kallis fairly easily for me.To me Kallis barely makes top 20 bats, whereas Wasim is in the top 10 bowlers ever. So a notable improvement in primary makes much more difference than Kallis having better secondary skills, especially as Wasim could bat. Kallis would be a better cricketer maybe if Wasim couldn't bat at all.
Do you rate Kallis as better than Steyn given his batting, bowling and slip combo?
I guess I tend not to rate secondary skills as high as you do unless they reach a threshold of being specialist level like Imran or Sobers that can potentially allow you an extra space in a regular team.I have Kallis 14th and Wasim 11th, so yeah, way closer than you do. So Kallis fairly easily for me.
I still have Steyn higher. Steyn is a top 4 bowler, that's hard to beat. But yeah, closer than Wasim and Kallis.
You have always underestimated Kallis's batting and hold him overall in low regard.I guess I tend not to rate secondary skills as high as you do unless they reach a threshold of being specialist level like Imran or Sobers that can potentially allow you an extra space in a regular team.
The difference between Steyn and Wasim is higher in ranking but in real game play is minor. It's just that these minor differences in primary ability matter so much more. Hence why Wasim being ahead of Kallis in primary plus his batting overtakes him.
You're right I am not going to put a universally praised bowler like Wasim the same level with Kallis.You have always underestimated Kallis's batting and hold him overall in low regard.
I have them very close in primary skill, very. Almost equal in fact.
Kallis is the considerably better bowler and again, one of the ATGs at slip.
Kallis is just one of the guys you don't like.
Hey, I'm all for peer review.You're right I am not going to put a universally praised bowler like Wasim the same level with Kallis.
Our spinner stocks are low, but we’re putting a lot of faith in BashirWhat
If you are all for peer review, how can you have Kallis so high in batting? He was never rated that high.Hey, I'm all for peer review.
You’d have to be completely moronic to use Root as your only spinner.Our spinner stocks are low, but we’re putting a lot of faith in Bashir
It's exactly the kind of thing I would expect from Bazball tbhYou’d have to be completely moronic to use Root as your only spinner.
Dan Lawrence says hi!You’d have to be completely moronic to use Root as your only spinner.
They're about to tour NZ.You’d have to be completely moronic to use Root as your only spinner.
Ignoring the first bit...Don't care about slip. Opportunity cost is small for a replacement. And it's not like others in the field are just twiddling thumbs.
So on skills that truly stand out, I think there is a strong case to be made for batting all-rounders who strengthen the team balance better than bowling all-rounders.
Why are you ignoring that part? Weren't you arguing that slip fielding was as crucial as batting and bowling?Ignoring the first bit...
@kyear2 would prefer a high class slip to a high class pace attack.Why are you ignoring that part? Weren't you arguing that slip fielding was as crucial as batting and bowling?